Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on clen and t3 help within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; What are the best ways to take t3/ clen how much how long etc. Any help would be apprecieated...
t-3:
at very most 6 weeks, starting at a low dose (25mcg), and slowly dosing up, running each dose at least 4 days (ie: sun-wed 25mcg, thurs-sun 50mcg, mon-thus 75mcg etc) untill you get to 100mcg, then slowly dose down in the same manner when coming off it, you could then follow the t3 cycle wit iodine pills to kickstart thyroid
clen:
start at a low dose (20-40mcg) run each dose 2-4days and slowly up it just like the t3, some do clen 2days on/2days off, others 1 week on/1week off, still others 2weeks on/2weeks off...i personally run 1 week on/off. do it in this fashion untill you get to 160mcg (you can run it to 200, but studies have shown high doses can cause degeneration and death of heart cells, just a forwarning) if the side effects get too much to handle at a lower dose than 160mcg, cap ur doses at that dose (clen affects people diffrently, i was running it at 200mcg and feeling fine, friends of mine were running it at 120mcg and getting migraines) its also wise 2 stack clen wit yohimbe or ketifen to prevent receptor downregulation, you can also bridge on your off weeks with an ECA stack
S500,
Just wondering your reasons for this statement?
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t-3:
at very most 6 weeks,
Best regards,
MaxRep
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from the profile on it from this website
"It is also impor*tant that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of abstinence from the drug needs to follow."
but i will say ive also read that it can be taken up to 10 months out of the year, personally id rather go 6 weeks, because to shut down your thyroid permantly would suck BIG time
i mean, if u shut ur boys off permanantly and need to go on HRT, it aint that bad as long as u dont plan on having kids, its a legal reason 2 juice, but to go on thyroid replacement therepy means popping a pill for the rest of your life, and the quality of ur life depends on that pill
just my 2 cents
from the profile on it from this website
"It is also impor*tant that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of abstinence from the drug needs to follow."
but i will say ive also read that it can be taken up to 10 months out of the year, personally id rather go 6 weeks, because to shut down your thyroid permantly would suck BIG time
i mean, if u shut ur boys off permanantly and need to go on HRT, it aint that bad as long as u dont plan on having kids, its a legal reason 2 juice, but to go on thyroid replacement therepy means popping a pill for the rest of your life, and the quality of ur life depends on that pill
just my 2 cents
I've read that too, but MaxRep told me you can take it for a couple months until you actually damage your thyroid
how long exactly can u take it for? cause i was planning on running it at a low dose during my next cycle just for the increase nutrient uptake, planning on this:
week 1-16 tren enth 500mgs/week
week 1-16 test enth 600mgs/week
week 1-16 adex .5mg eod
week 1-6 dbol 35mgs ed
week 12-16 HCG 500 iu e5d
week 1-16 cabergolin .5mg e3d
PCT
week 17-19 HCG 500iu ed
week 17-20 clomid 100mg ed
week 17-20 nolva 40mg ed
week 21-22 nolva 20mg ed
week 17-22 cabergolin .5mg e3d
week 17-22 dbol 10mg ed
so i could run 20mcg of it all 16 weeks with no risk 2 my thyroid?
i plan on getting massive on this, i ran tren/test combo last cycle and blew up 45 lbs on a 10 week cycle, something like this should propel me above 250lbs
oh btw, at the moment (im running dnp right now) im 6foot, 207lbs, approx 8% bf, started dnp at 219 12%bf
Let's just say I sometimes disagree with parts of the profiles and articles written by the "gurus". Since I form my opinions from a combination of my personal experiences of over 30 years in gyms and researching in scientific journals, I usually have good reasons for why I don't always agree with what's written by these people. I do have to say most of the info written by the "experts" on this site is very good and as the admin here knows, I wouldn't say that unless I believed it.
As far as the length of time on T3... various studies which I've already recently posted excerpts from have shown thyroid shutdown (which is really TSH shutdown) is time and dosage dependent. With a large increase in shutdown percentages after 6 months of a replacement dosage.
So if staying on Thyroid for 6 months isn't safe, what is safe? From a combination of science and personal observations, I estimate that a safe period of time is up to 2 months, and possibly slightly longer . However, to be safe and not push the envelope, the period of time on should be 2 months or less. Also, this is with reasonable dosages. 25-50mcg's of T3 is plenty and 100-200mcg's of T4 is plenty (either/or... not at the same time). The lower dosage for the longer time period and/or smaller people (<200lbs)and the higher end for shorter periods and/or larger people(>200lbs). A little goes a long ways and using too much thyroid is counterproductive as it's effects are non-specific.
S500, I would never recommend someone take thyroid for 4 months straight. That's way past the safe limit and while you may be one of the 50% who doesn't shutdown until after 6 months, I wouldn't take that risk. In your case, which is a 16 week cycle, I would run it 6 weeks on, 5 weeks off and 6 weeks on, as the anabolic effects won't start to decrease until after week 17. Also, I think the use of dbol during your pct is very foolish. I've already written on this subject many times so you'll do what you want but don't be surprised if down the road you start having a very hard time getting your natural Test production to restart after a cycle.
Best regards,
MaxRep
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how long exactly can u take it for? cause i was planning on running it at a low dose during my next cycle just for the increase nutrient uptake, planning on this:
week 1-16 tren enth 500mgs/week
week 1-16 test enth 600mgs/week
week 1-16 adex .5mg eod
week 1-6 dbol 35mgs ed
week 12-16 HCG 500 iu e5d
week 1-16 cabergolin .5mg e3d
PCT
week 17-19 HCG 500iu ed
week 17-20 clomid 100mg ed
week 17-20 nolva 40mg ed
week 21-22 nolva 20mg ed
week 17-22 cabergolin .5mg e3d
week 17-22 dbol 10mg ed
so i could run 20mcg of it all 16 weeks with no risk 2 my thyroid?
i plan on getting massive on this, i ran tren/test combo last cycle and blew up 45 lbs on a 10 week cycle, something like this should propel me above 250lbs
oh btw, at the moment (im running dnp right now) im 6foot, 207lbs, approx 8% bf, started dnp at 219 12%bf
sorry to get off topic lol
You have a very nice PCT(although i likke to run HCG during the cycle not at the end), but for some obscure reason you have dbol in there?.Can you explain you reason for this as this defeats the whole object of doing a PCT in the first place.
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