Comment on this cycle...

[Sheki]

Hi Bros...

You that have read some of my previous post know that I am on Masteron, Test and EQ. I have experimented over the couple 10 weeks with different dosages and seem to have found one that fits me good. That is dosages where I look normal, the bloating is as if didnt take anything. Which I geuss makes my body stil have some estrogen left and stuff for health. But I have stil developed some joint problems, I think part is do to training but anyhow I have also recently started using Deca, with very good results without so much of the water-bloat. These are the dosages I am runing them at weekly, right now doing shots EOD...

Test 125mg
EQ 200mg
Masteron 300mg
Deca 50mg

Remember that I am using this one for cutting... and I am after some joint improvement, since I have noticed that when I have low levels of estrogen in the body my joints start to hurt. However after adding the Deca... it has improved. Any suggestions? I was thinking of using some more Test but I am not sure really...since I read that it would decrease collagen synthesis. What effect does the Masteron has on collagen? Improves or not? I would geuss something similar to Winstrol...

So basicly I know the Test dosages is good (for collagen), the EQ is also good, and that the Deca is somewhat low but I get very much water-bloat from deca so... but I need help with the Masteron guys... maybe I could use less of Masteron and up it before competition, and drop the deca, test and eq... like 300mg Masteron the weeks before competition?

Also I heard one guy saying that all androgens would make your body hold water... so the best thing was to use anti-aromatize drugs pre competition and no AAS at all. Any truth to this?

I do not like using orals...

Tnx!

[Mr. Shoulders]

Not enough test...also, the only real cutting compound you are running is the masteron...Poor cycle IMO

[Deacon]

are those doses eod or weekly?

[Sheki]

They are weekly.

Why would it be better to up the test?

I understand that test, and deca are no cutting compounds. EQ is considered middle ground by some. It is true.

Let me give you my reason for doing that. I am competing in 10 weeks, I need to have my joints feeling good and the rest of me too. I was thinking droping the Test, Deca and also Eq and just go with some Mast the last few weeks into the competition. I am not that fat right now, need to lose 10lbs all in all in 10 weeks so no big deal. I am competing in the under 200lbs classes. I have no experience with what to use pre competition... some say use nothing, I think some Masteron at say 50mg/day only would be best.

What you say guys?

[*Hawk]

Why would it be better to up the test?

Because you ALMOST naturally produce that much Test.

If your gonna shut your natural Test production down, at least get something out of it.

Test Enthanate: 250mgs EW Minimum. (Some people will suggest 500mgs min.)

IMO 50mgs of Deca is gonna do anything. Maybe, MAYBE, it will lubricate your joints, but I don't really know at that low of a dosage.

Deca Durabolin: 300mgs EW Minimum.

Either pick the Deca or the EQ.

What's your cycle history???

[Deacon]

competing in what? bbing or powerlifting? man your to clsoe to the meet to worry about that stuff now

test should be run at 400-500 a week at least to be effective as stated above EQ 400 per week

deca 400 or above for mass and at least 200 per week for joints

Masteron run in this poor cycle will cut you but may also rob you of needed mass

this whole cycle and the theory behind it is foolish bro - it wont work well for you at all

[Sheki]

OK, I hear you.

I am competing in BB. I have no intentions of ganing any mass what so ever... I am as big as I want to be right now.

Atleast 200mg Deca and 400mg EQ? OK...
Atleast 250mg Test... OK

So if I double the dosaqes, I would have:

420mg Masteron
280mg Testo
280mg EQ
70mg Deca

I do not know guys, but that seems much better...

Deacon I trust you the most, tell me what you think? Does that one above see good? What should I do... I have Mast, Test, Deca and EQ. I weigh in at 210lbs right now, 9-10BF, 5,7'... 23 years...my current lifts are:

Frontsquat 275x10
Benchpress 275x10
Standing Rows 275x10
Millitary Presses 175x10
Curls 145x10

I know how to diet, need to lose about 10lbs in 10 weeks... so coming is around 4BF with the extra water-loss included.

give me an suggestion... also pre-competition if you know that too.

Tnx!

[Mr. Shoulders]

IMO you need to get on the stick if you are competing in 10 weeks...My advice to you would be to run Prop, Masteron and tren @ 100mgs each eod and try to salvage something out of this mess...You need to be training very hard right now and you don't need any H2O weight...Next time plan better

[solo47]

Originally Posted by Sheki

OK, I hear you.

I am competing in BB. I have no intentions of ganing any mass what so ever... I am as big as I want to be right now.

Atleast 200mg Deca and 400mg EQ? OK...
Atleast 250mg Test... OK

So if I double the dosaqes, I would have:

420mg Masteron
280mg Testo
280mg EQ
70mg Deca

Okay, Sheki, this answers some of the questions I PM'd you. Sorry, I should have read everything before asking questions. You seem plenty preoccupied anyway.

Those are pretty strange numbers (above) but I guess if they work for you... If that little bit of Deca takes away the joint pain, you might as well use it (but it seems unlikely to help much). I'd say up the EQ for joint pain, though it won't kick in for 3 or 4 weeks (which is no help to you right now).

Don't think you'll bloat if you're eating right & working out right (& you are, apparently), even with 500 mgs Test/W. Since Mast is a cousin of Provi & an excellent cutter, & EQ is mostly a cutter, you should just get dense, the prototypical "lean mean posing machine".

Solo