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Old 03-27-2004, 11:35 AM
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OK, I've been reading posts on this site for about 3 months now and I'm about to start my first cylcle of Test 200. I've been hearing alot about "Clomid", is this something I have to have? What else do I need when I'm starting, on, and comming off of Test 200. (I'm going to do a 8 week cycle) I've found plenty of sites that give examples but nothing specific to Test 200. Is there any one who's had experience with Test Enenthate that can give me some advice?
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OK, I've been reading posts on this site for about 3 months now and I'm about to start my first cylcle of Test 200. I've been hearing alot about "Clomid", is this something I have to have? What else do I need when I'm starting, on, and comming off of Test 200. (I'm going to do a 8 week cycle) I've found plenty of sites that give examples but nothing specific to Test 200. Is there any one who's had experience with Test Enenthate that can give me some advice?
Odviously you have not done enough research to even have considered to starting a cycle. This is not a flame, I am going to help you out anyhow. If this is your first cycle and you are set on a test only cycle (which will def. be productive) I would do something like this:
weeks 1-10 enantate @ 400mg every week divided into two seperate shots. ex. 200mg monday 200mg thursday (keeps blood level more stable)
Have nolvadex and arimidex on hand incase of ichy nipples
For post cycle you will need both clomids and hcg\
Run clomids "about" (do a search on the exact amount of days) one week after last shot of enantate @ 300mg day one, and 50mg e/d for about 20 days or so. Along with this I would also use hcg @ 1000 iu's every day for 10 days during the clomid therapy. This will help your body restart it's natural testosterone production.
This will ensure you will keep most of the gains you have obtained through your test cycle.
Hope this helps!
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Odviously you have not done enough research to even have considered to starting a cycle. This is not a flame, I am going to help you out anyhow. If this is your first cycle and you are set on a test only cycle (which will def. be productive) I would do something like this:
weeks 1-10 enantate @ 400mg every week divided into two seperate shots. ex. 200mg monday 200mg thursday (keeps blood level more stable)
Have nolvadex and arimidex on hand incase of ichy nipples
For post cycle you will need both clomids and hcg\
Run clomids "about" (do a search on the exact amount of days) one week after last shot of enantate @ 300mg day one, and 50mg e/d for about 20 days or so. Along with this I would also use hcg @ 1000 iu's every day for 10 days during the clomid therapy. This will help your body restart it's natural testosterone production.
This will ensure you will keep most of the gains you have obtained through your test cycle.
Hope this helps!
Thank you
Even better than that advice, read Bob Smith's animal mass cycle on the top of this forum. He explains it a lot better than I can, with more detail.
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Shouldn't clomid be started around 2 weeks after last inject? Enanthate stays active in the bloodstream for around 2-3 weeks after it's discontinued.
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Damn it read bobs sticky.... It's there for a reason
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Shouldn't clomid be started around 2 weeks after last inject? Enanthate stays active in the bloodstream for around 2-3 weeks after it's discontinued.
Why take that chance? No one knows how long it will stay active in your body. Clomid isn't so expensive,that you can't afford to start it the day of last inject. Besides,it's an Anti-E,so why not try to get E under control a little earlier? It's up to you,but i use Nolvadex with Clomid for PCT.... more Nolva than Clomid. Since It's harder and harder to keep gains when you get close or above your natural limits,that makes PCT harder,too. You may be able to get away with not taking Ancillaries at all your 1st even 2nd cycle,but that won't be the case for cycles after,that's when the Anti Aromitase,Anti-cortisol,bridging,etc...comes in. Nothing is set in stone. I think it's crazy to wait even 1 1/2 weeks after last Enanthate inject before starting PCT... AND you should worry about your run away cortisol before your low natural test
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I've been cycling for quite a few years now and never use Ancillaries during cycle. I usually run a short acting test like propionate at the end of the cycle, wait 3 days after last inject, then start clomid.

People's PCT stradgies have changed so much in the last few years. I stick to the old fashion way and it still works.
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