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Old 07-24-2009, 03:54 PM
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Why not run 500 mgs test enth or cyp with 500 mgs eq ????You could use oral var for first 6 weeks too.
Now that sounds yummy.
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Deca durabolin will increase serum prolactin levels.
If prolactin is high and testosterone low the results is a malfunctioning libido.
Prolactin and dopamine play against each other in driving and damping the libido.
Via the mechanism of testosterone up regulating nitric oxide synthesis in the MPOA, which in turn enhances dopamine release thus increasing sexual drive.
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Default Re: confused on deca effects with test

i've used alot of deca and still do. its not one i would run without test to keep androgen level up. i've ran with dbol and it works ok for me but test keeps androgen levels more stable. with deca you can keep sides under control while still increasing anabolic effect.
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The reason Deca only shuts down most peoples ability to gain erections is due to lack of estrogen. The parts of the brain and nervious system that make you able to get a hard-on need some estrogen in the mix or they start to break down and some will die. The test in the cycle is how your body makes estrogen it converts some test. That is why test inthe cycle keeps you happy in the sex department. It is the estrogen by product from the test not the test itself. Since deca shuts down your test production it also elimanates your source of estrogen...follow me?

So in theory youc ould take those womens hot flash supplements that contain plant estrogens which are weak compared to real deal and still be good to go with hard-ons. You could in theory take 1-2 100miligarm AST brand DHEA capsules each night before bed and again be good to go because DHEA can easily be converted into estrogen or test by the body.

So their are many ways to skin a cat when it comes to geting a rock hard erection with DECA and not all of them include having to buy test to add to the mix. All AAS shut down the HPTA once you take a dose large enough to be anabolic even injectable test shuts you down. The difference is with test it does nto matter if it comes from your body or from a bottle the natural systems that use it either directly or metabolites from it still work. So if you do 500mg of test a week and then come off it you will be just as shut down as if you where doing Deca.....That is what PCT is for.......Test is not needed for hard erections. You can get hard erections with almost no test in your body at all and super high estrogen levels. Your sex drive though or your desire for sex will decrease propositionally to any decrease in test normaly!

I am sorry but your question is not a cut and dry yes no situation. I ran a Deca+Tren cycle with no test once and my erections did not suffer, I did not have any hair loss etc.....When I came off I did standard old school PCT of Clomid and Tamox and tossed in some Trib and I did not suffer any sexual shut down at all. Now I did not crave sex as often and the little woman had to give me oral to get me hard but he got just as hard as normal. Now on a high test cycle if I just look at a hot woman I sprout instance wood and would like to get it 3-4 times a day....Not everyone is like this though. My best friend did Deca only at 700mg a week and suffered no shut down of his ability to get erections either...People tell me that we are both exceptions and that might well be true! No two people behave the same when discussing sides with AAS especially at high dosages!

If you think outside the box you can solve a problem in many different ways! Deca by itself does not produce as drastic explosion of muscle when used by itself as test does by itself or even tren by itself. This is why Deca is normaly stacked. It is one of those AAS products that when stacked with either test or an agressive test like oral it will produce drastic results but by itself it could almost be used as a cutting drug more then a bulking drug. So it is best to stack it with a class I injectable or oral and whatch the muscles grow.
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