Contest Cycle Feedback - MESO-Rx

cormudgen · #1 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 09:29 PM

Well It's been quite some time since I have been active on these forums. I started out here and learned what was required for a basic cycle. I have done a few of those ranging from just 250 test a week to the last couple at 500test a week with 250 of Deca or EQ stacked with it.

I'll be doing my first bodybuilding show and would like to prep a cycle to go along with my prep. My diet is SPOT on so I'm not particuarly looking for advice on that front. Feedback on the contest prep cycle I've posted below is appreciated though.

Thanks,

ChaseQ · #2 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 12:09 AM

Sorry i cant give you much in the way of help on pre-contest cycles. But i can tell you the EQ doses your talking about are too low to make any difference. EQ needs to be around 400mgs+ weekly and really 11 weeks is not very long for EQ, it takes near 8 weeks to really kick in.

You might be better off replacing it, or uping it.

cormudgen · #3 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 11:51 AM

Interesting Feedback on the EQ Dose and time. Any others thoughts on this?

From William Llewellyn's Anabolics 2007

"...for performance-enhancing purposes. It is most commonly used at a dosage of 200-400mg per week"

"The positive effects of this drug become most apparent when it is used for longer cycles, usually lasting 8 weeks or more in duration. The muscle gained should also not be the smooth bulk associated with testoteerone, but more defined and solid."

He also has a sample basic stack of 250 Test Weekly and 200 EQ weekly for 10 weeks.

I have run test enanthate at 500 and EQ at 250 for 10 weeks with good luck in the past. I tend to run more "conservative cycles" so am OK with the lower dosings as long as I continue to see success. This planned cycle is no doubt the most liberal one I've considered.

bigbench · #4 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 01:12 PM

Im guessing that the contest is in week 14 which is why its highlighted. I like that you are going on the low end when it comes to cycles, but one, at those doses you will not get anything really out of it, and two , those compounds are not the best for a contest. A good combo would be something like testp/mast/trena and drop the test around 1 weeks out from the show and run the mast/tren up through the show.

ChaseQ · #5 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbench

Im guessing that the contest is in week 14 which is why its highlighted. I like that you are going on the low end when it comes to cycles, but one, at those doses you will not get anything really out of it, and two , those compounds are not the best for a contest. A good combo would be something like testp/mast/trena and drop the test around 1 weeks out from the show and run the mast/tren up through the show.

This does sound like a cycle that would leave you denser and leaner than the one you listed.

"I have run test enanthate at 500 and EQ at 250 for 10 weeks with good luck in the past."

Your a lucky guy corm!

I need the EQ around 500-600 to see its effects! Shows you how much genetics plays a role in it!

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do, and how it turns out.

dennis · #6 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 02:00 PM

I agree with bigbench tren,prop, mast...I use eq at 800 mgs per week 16 weeks for "best" results.

cormudgen · #7 (**permalink**) 07-13-2009, 09:42 PM

Took the feedback and comiled a new cylce. Please give your feedback.

-Is every 3rd day acceptable with Prop or does it need to be every other?
-Is it ok to run the longer ester of test up until 6 weeks and then switch to prop

Masteron is VERY expensive from my local source. Its a tough call for me to justify it but I'm willing to take advice from knowledgeable folks and give it a try to see how it works for me.

cormudgen · #8 (**permalink**) 07-15-2009, 09:34 PM

feedback on revised cycle?

dosing? length of each steroid? frequency of injections?

bigbench · #9 (**permalink**) 08-23-2009, 12:32 PM

Is the show at the end of week 12 or begining? if its at the end, drop the prop 1 week out to allow any estrogen to clear out. You can up the tren/mast and even halo just for the last couple of weeks to take full advantage of the anabolic effects. Near contest time is not a time to worry about libido anyway so dont worry about not having prop in there as well
Also, I would be on the adex during the entire cycle so that estrogen is never an issue. I usually go with adex for the majority, and then letro starting 3 weeks out from show time

cormudgen · #10 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbench

Is the show at the end of week 12 or begining? if its at the end, drop the prop 1 week out to allow any estrogen to clear out. You can up the tren/mast and even halo just for the last couple of weeks to take full advantage of the anabolic effects. Near contest time is not a time to worry about libido anyway so dont worry about not having prop in there as well
Also, I would be on the adex during the entire cycle so that estrogen is never an issue. I usually go with adex for the majority, and then letro starting 3 weeks out from show time

i'm 2 weeks and 3 days out from the show. very happy with the results thus far, diet has been KEY and I have gotten VERY shredded. a 9 caliper test rated me at 4.75% body fat. Not sure how close that is or not, but I know there isntt much more fat to loose so very happy. my biggest concern is holding water at this point. i have been supplementing 6 meals a day with 1/4 tspn of sea salt, and intend to drop that a week out. i am hoping that will help "shrink wrap". still i'd like to folow the best protocol with the anabolics to achieve the dryest look possible.

bigbench.
i'd like to start the prop tren/mast manipulation now. i'll plan on runnin prop for about 1 more week eliminating it 1 week b4 the show. referencing the numbers i've detailed below, what do you recomend i up the mast and tren too?

also, i've added in 1mg of arimidex daily.

thanks for the help