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Old 04-14-2008, 01:21 AM
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Hey guys,
Been hibernating a while; however about to commence a lean bulker and want your thoughts.
Stats - 6.0' ; 200lbs; 43 years old, been lifting 15 years; currently about 20% bodyfat.

I have half a dozen cycles under my belt. Last cycle was 500mg of Sustanon with 400mg of Deca for 12 weeks. Put on about 20lbs. Since then training has been a little inconsistent as has diet. I'm back on track in terms of diet and training now and want to make this cycle a winner.

Here's what I'm contemplating:
weeks 1-4 30mg D-Bol
weeks 1-16 600mgs Test E
weeks 1-16 600mgs of Eq
weeks 12-16 80mg of Var
PCT 4 weeks of Nolva 40/20/20/10
I also have Adex which I'll run at .25mg every 3rd day to reduce bloat.

Would love to get your thoughts or possible alternatives. I have access to most AAS.
cheers,
SW
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:12 AM
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Sorry, D-Bol & Var dosages are each day.
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Hey guys,
Been hibernating a while; however about to commence a lean bulker and want your thoughts.
Stats - 6.0' ; 200lbs; 43 years old, been lifting 15 years; currently about 20% bodyfat.

I have half a dozen cycles under my belt. Last cycle was 500mg of Sustanon with 400mg of Deca for 12 weeks. Put on about 20lbs. Since then training has been a little inconsistent as has diet. I'm back on track in terms of diet and training now and want to make this cycle a winner.

Here's what I'm contemplating:
weeks 1-4 30mg D-Bol
weeks 1-16 600mgs Test E
weeks 1-16 600mgs of Eq
weeks 12-16 80mg of Var
PCT 4 weeks of Nolva 40/20/20/10
I also have Adex which I'll run at .25mg every 3rd day to reduce bloat.

Would love to get your thoughts or possible alternatives. I have access to most AAS.
cheers,
SW
Looks good brother exept for the length. I would run the Test for 12-14 weeks and eq for 11-13 weeks and the var at 50mgs top (don't think more is needed) at weeks 8-14 or 10-16 weeks and start my pct right after my last dosage of anavar. You could add primo or Tren.

Another good cycle would be Test Prop, Tren E and Primo or preferably Eq.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:14 AM
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Hey guys,
Been hibernating a while; however about to commence a lean bulker and want your thoughts.
Stats - 6.0' ; 200lbs; 43 years old, been lifting 15 years; currently about 20% bodyfat.

I have half a dozen cycles under my belt. Last cycle was 500mg of Sustanon with 400mg of Deca for 12 weeks. Put on about 20lbs. Since then training has been a little inconsistent as has diet. I'm back on track in terms of diet and training now and want to make this cycle a winner.

Here's what I'm contemplating:
weeks 1-4 30mg D-Bol
weeks 1-16 600mgs Test E
weeks 1-16 600mgs of Eq
weeks 12-16 80mg of Var
PCT 4 weeks of Nolva 40/20/20/10
I also have Adex which I'll run at .25mg every 3rd day to reduce bloat.

Would love to get your thoughts or possible alternatives. I have access to most AAS.
cheers,
SW
Shredded wheat..your handle should be Puffy wheat....You are at 20 % body fat bro....I will go easy on you cause I am at 15 % right now.You need to drop down to under 15% before you start the cycle or you are just going to keep gaining more fat.As far as the cycle goes....
1-4 dbol 30 mgs
weeks 1-14 test enth 600 mgs
weeks 1-14 eq 600 mgs
weeks 9-16 var 30 mgs per day
plan for 6 weeks of nolva at your age or longer..use hcg weekly.Do not take the adex for bloat unless you have to.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:18 AM
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I LOVE the Test/EQ/Tren cycle. Or for contests, Prop/Tren/Mast That is even better! . How well did you recover from your last one and how long ago was it? If you can come back pretty well, then MAYBE the 16 weeks wont be too bad, but like Rein and dennis said, you can shorten it a bit and still have great results.
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I agree 12 weeks is a better option but I would`nt stretch it past 14 weeks. If you have access to a variety of anabolic compounds I would rather half my test enanthate and replace the other 300mg with test prop. What Big bench said is so true. tren, prop and masteron is 10/10. Good luck keep us posted.
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Am I the only one that thinks that 20 % body fat should be much lower
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I Agree with you Dennis it is high but I am sure Shreddedwheat is going to pull that body composition round by increasing his lean mass by 20% and dropping the BF by 10%. When I am on a cycle I make sure I dont go higher than 8% and off higher than 10%. But you are correct in what you are saying its a point that our friend has to address.
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lol.. puffy wheat! all in good fun bro.
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Thanks for the sage advice guys. Dennis I was probably being a bit harsh on myself when I said 20% bf; I'm probably more in the region of 15% - 4 pack showing rather than 6 pack lol. You're right though, I'm going to work hard on the diet in the next month.

I recovered reasonably well from the last cycle in October last year - kept about 70% of gains. I'll reduce the length to no more than 14 weeks. If I halve the Test E and replace it with 300mg per week of Prop, I won't need to front-load with the D-Bol right?

Also, I was thinking of pinning the Test E and Eq twice a week - 300mg of Test E and Eq in the same barrel say Monday and Thursdays. What should the schedule look like if I halve the 600mg per week of Test E and replace it with 300mg per week of Prop? Thanks in advance guys.
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Thanks for the sage advice guys. Dennis I was probably being a bit harsh on myself when I said 20% bf; I'm probably more in the region of 15% - 4 pack showing rather than 6 pack lol. You're right though, I'm going to work hard on the diet in the next month.

I recovered reasonably well from the last cycle in October last year - kept about 70% of gains. I'll reduce the length to no more than 14 weeks. If I halve the Test E and replace it with 300mg per week of Prop, I won't need to front-load with the D-Bol right?

Also, I was thinking of pinning the Test E and Eq twice a week - 300mg of Test E and Eq in the same barrel say Monday and Thursdays. What should the schedule look like if I halve the 600mg per week of Test E and replace it with 300mg per week of Prop? Thanks in advance guys.
Wow !!! You lost 5% body fat in just a few days..Fantastic !!! Ok..I will call you wheat for now..maybe later Shredded...I would go ahead and use the dbol as planned above.I would also keep the test enth and eq dose the same as planned above.You could use 100 mgs test prop eod for first two weeks..but DO NOT LOWER THE ENTH MGS PER WEEK !!!!! And yes..shoot the eq and enth 2 x per week bro.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:08 AM
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Thanks Dennis, you're always a great source of advice, information and experience.
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Shredded Wheat for sure if you use tren properly
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