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Old 07-24-2004, 12:29 AM
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couple of quick questions?

#1) cutting/lean mass cycle
Deca 200mg/wk wk1-10
Winstrol 20mg/d wk 5-11
Proviron 50mg/d wk 2-11

#2) cutting cycle
Tren 150mg-up to 225/wk wk 1-8
Win 150mg/wk wk 2-8

36M, 1st cycle, 5'9", 195 lbs, 9% BF

i want to be able to keep most of my gains post cycle?

will win put some size on (even an few lbs lean muscle) or strickly cut

i have heard rumors of joint pain with win is it true?

any input as to which wil allow me keep gains post cycle, minimum water retention, minimum hair loss??

also should i add any other antiestrogen or PCT therapy to these

i ahve read alll of the phreezer posts
thanx in advance
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:40 AM
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couple of quick questions?

#1) cutting/lean mass cycle
Deca 200mg/wk wk1-10
Winstrol 20mg/d wk 5-11
Proviron 50mg/d wk 2-11

#2) cutting cycle
Tren 150mg-up to 225/wk wk 1-8
Win 150mg/wk wk 2-8

36M, 1st cycle, 5'9", 195 lbs, 9% BF

i want to be able to keep most of my gains post cycle?

will win put some size on (even an few lbs lean muscle) or strickly cut

i have heard rumors of joint pain with win is it true?

any input as to which wil allow me keep gains post cycle, minimum water retention, minimum hair loss??

also should i add any other antiestrogen or PCT therapy to these

i ahve read alll of the phreezer posts
thanx in advance
cj

bro I think the tren/winny would be best, but only if u increase the doses, to tren at 75mg/EOD, and the winny at 50mg/ED at least. Adding a low dose of test never hurt anyone either

At 50mg/ED winny shouldnt hurt your joints much, although the tren/winny combo can dehydrate you a bit I would shoot for 2 gallons of water a day.

with these two u dont need any anti-e's, and u will most likely not get any tren gyno either, if however u do, run some b-6 at 600mg/ED

tren can be harsh on the hair, one thing that helped my hair is to put conditioner in it every morning, and let it stay there for a good 15 minutes before washing it out, seems to keep the scalp hydrated

for pct, use hcg and clomid in the standard fashion

PS it will be ur diet more than the gear that determines if u bulk or cut
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i would add test to your cycles bro, test should be in every cycle. Progesterone-related gyno is possible from using tren and deca so use the proper precautions.
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