Cycle Advice..........

[SteveCrammer]

Hi guys Im currently on an all oral cycle of tbol and var and finish it 5 weeks and I am already thinking about progressing to an injection cycle for the future.

Ive done around 5 oral cycles and now want to progress to injections.

Stats
6 feet 1, 220lbs 12%bf

When can I start a new cycle? Is it cycle length + pct = time off before I can start new cycle? Does that apply to the above oral stack?

Also can you advise me on the following cycle:

400 mg a week of (EQ)boldenone with 500 mg of sustanon or 500 mg of testosterone
front-loading of EQ 600-800 mg/week for 2 weeks and then lower the dose to 400mg a week
12 weeks
OR
400 mg a week of DECA with 500 mg of sustanon or 500 mg of testosterone
12 weeks

Im worried about androgenic side-effects e.g hair loss and would also like to use finasteride1.25mg ED to block the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme and stops the conversion of testosterone to the more androgenic compound DHT. Only snag is DHT reduces
estrogenic bloat, increases free levels of testosterone and is a very potent androgen
that is 3-4 times stronger than testosterone, so I could then use arimidex as my anti-aromatase?

PCT
HCG 1500-3000 IU every 5-6 days
Nolvadex 40mg ED 4 weeks

Thanks in advance.

[prodigy06]

goals?

[Mr Wiggly]

Hey buddy, I am no expert and am certainly not in a position to give you advice. However I took this strait from Phreezers sticky. This refers to your PCT. Im sure more knowledgeable advise is on the way. Good luck




Standard Recovery cycle.

HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.
If you are pron to gyno, or are having Itchy Nipples, painful nipples or lumps in your nipples. Administer 40mg-80mg ED For Two weeks.
Nolvadex is also something you can take throughout your entire cycle. You might try
10mg ED (1/2 tab). It will reduce water retention and help keep you from getting gyno.
I believe that arimidex would be a better choice to administer during cycle because Nolvadex lowers IGF-1 levels where arimidex increases them if you take arimidex during your cycle, .5mg ED should be sufficient.

[SteveCrammer]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

goals?

Goals are to put on mass, not too much bloat and prevention of hairloss.

[dennis]

I am interested in hearing more about your oral cycles....weight gained on each one..weight lost after pct on each one...any sides..exactly which orals and how much ?
I liked your sust and eq cycle you posted...only thing is you might get a little bloat from the sust but that would be better than pinning yourself eod with prop and tren ace.

[SteveCrammer]

Originally Posted by dennis

I am interested in hearing more about your oral cycles....weight gained on each one..weight lost after pct on each one...any sides..exactly which orals and how much ?
I liked your sust and eq cycle you posted...only thing is you might get a little bloat from the sust but that would be better than pinning yourself eod with prop and tren ace.

Hi Dennis

Ive normally done Var fist cycle was 40mg ED didnt really gain any siwe, but shape changed, then I upped trhe dosage to 80mg ED on my subsequent cycles and gained 10lbs but lost a few pounds due to improper PCT. Finally Im on a tbol 50mgED and Var 60mg ED stack and after 4 weeks I have gaines 7lbs reduced bodyfat and strength gone through the roof. I will stop the rtbol at week 6 and the var at week 9, then PCT is 40mgED nolvadex for 3 weeks, possibly along with some trib and ZMA for an additional 5 weeks.

I should be around 225lbs (gain of 12lbs) then but not sure how much I will keep after PCT.

How long should I normally rest before next cycle is it cycle length plus pct length equals time off?

Would you prefer the Deca or EQ stacked with the Sust? Wouldnt the reduce bloat and doesnt sust produce less bloat anyway than other say Test E only.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by SteveCrammer

Hi Dennis

Ive normally done Var fist cycle was 40mg ED didnt really gain any siwe, but shape changed, then I upped trhe dosage to 80mg ED on my subsequent cycles and gained 10lbs but lost a few pounds due to improper PCT. Finally Im on a tbol 50mgED and Var 60mg ED stack and after 4 weeks I have gaines 7lbs reduced bodyfat and strength gone through the roof. I will stop the rtbol at week 6 and the var at week 9, then PCT is 40mgED nolvadex for 3 weeks, possibly along with some trib and ZMA for an additional 5 weeks.

I should be around 225lbs (gain of 12lbs) then but not sure how much I will keep after PCT.

How long should I normally rest before next cycle is it cycle length plus pct length equals time off?

Would you prefer the Deca or EQ stacked with the Sust? Wouldnt the reduce bloat and doesnt sust produce less bloat anyway than other say Test E only.

I think for most of us we think 2 injectable cycles per year is adequate.That gives us plenty of time to recoop normal levels.With oral cycles taking more of a toll on the liver longer rest in between might be better than the injectable protocol.If you are on 12 week inj. and go through 5 weeks of pct I would like to stay natural past that point 12 more weeks.I would stay away from deca if I were you. Eq or tren might be a better choice...sust can bloat you up like test enth or cyp can.If you can pin eod then use test prop.