Cycle Advise Please

[fore22]

I am 32 5'9 1/2 183lbs about 11-13% body fat. I have cylced before but it has been a few years (early to mid 20's). I have been working out for 11 or so years. My diet is pretty clean seems to be better the last few months since I have been getting more real food instead of shakes. I have used Test E before and Dbol but never Tren A and I have never used a pct before ( did not do much research when I was young). I was looking at doing this cycle but would like some input. Thanks.

I have been taking 3iu of Humatrope for the last 3 months (5/2) and have now switched over to Nutropin AQ 3 iu 5/2 and have enough to run another 4 months.



Weeks 1-12 Test E 500 per week
Weeks 1-6 50mg Dbol ed
Weeks 6-12 100mg Tren a eod

I am planning on taking 100mg Clomid and 20mg Nolvadex ed starting week 14 (2weeks after last injection) for 2weeks and then down to 50 clomid and 20 nolvedax for 2 weeks. Also adding aromasin 25/25/25/25.

[Porthos]

is this a bulking cycle ... if so I would take the dbol for weeks 1-4 and the Tren for weeks 5-12

[bigbench]

Extend the tren out another week or two. That way you get as much as you can out of your cycle until PCT starts

[fore22]

Yes, but I was thinking that the Tren would also help cut a little at the end. Problem is I do not have enough of the tren to go 8 weeks. I have 20ml of 100mg/ml. Which is just short of 6 weeks. Should I just run the dbol/test 1-4 and then test only 5-6 and then tren and test to finish out. Or start the tren after dbol and just finish test only.

[Porthos]

if you can't get any more tren and you have the dbol then keep taking it for the 6 weeks ... but if you could get more tren it owuld be great

[fore22]

Ok, just found out I can get another tren. So run the dbol 1-4 Tren 5-12 Test all 12? Bigbench are you saying to run the tren longer than the 12th week? After the Test stops?

[bigbench]

Yes, the test will take two weeks to "clear out" of the system while the tren only a few days. You could stop the test at week 12 and run the tren up til you start clom/nolva. They would both be out of your system after about the 2nd to 3rd day of your PCT. Also, if you are starting the tren at week 5, then run the dbol 5 full weeks as well. That way you overlap week five to keep an active component while the tren starts to peak

[Porthos]

Test weeks 1 -12
Dbol weeks 1 - 4
Tren weeks 1 - 12

[fore22]

Thanks Porthos. That is what I will run. What about my PCT.

I was going to run clomid and nolvadex but I keep reading to use nolva, hcg and an aromasin.

So I thought

HCG 500iu 2x week ( 4 weeks starting week 13)
Nolva 20mg ed 4 weeks starting week 14 (2 weeks after last test shot)
Aromasin 20mg ed 4 weeks starting week 14.

[Porthos]

Originally Posted by fore22

Thanks Porthos. That is what I will run. What about my PCT.

I was going to run clomid and nolvadex but I keep reading to use nolva, hcg and an aromasin.

So I thought

HCG 500iu 2x week ( 4 weeks starting week 13)
Nolva 20mg ed 4 weeks starting week 14 (2 weeks after last test shot)
Aromasin 20mg ed 4 weeks starting week 14.

well once again this is just my opnion

HcG 500iu starting the last week of your cycle on week 12, and then 2 more weeks - 3 total.
Nolva 4 weeks at 40, 20, 20, 10mgs starting 2 weeks after your last test injeciton of test.

Personally I wouldn't bother with the aromasin ... but thats just me... I think on a cycle like this the Hcg and Nolva should be enough...