Cycle Critique Please

[ronnievanzant]

Hey bros,
I probably need a little help with this one because I'm using some AAS I've never used before and don't know much about. I've really never done a cycle that wasn't mostly for mass, so this is new ground for me. I'm not planning on starting until January, so there is plenty of time for changes. I already have all my gear. Any comments/advice/affirmations are appreciated.

I'm 6'3 245-250, around 14% (Will probably be around 12% when I start b/c I'm in the process of getting back in shape). I'm a football player and am basically striving to stay in the 250-260 range while increasing strength and lowering bf to work on becoming more efficient and explosive. I've done 3 or 4 cycles before consisting of up to 700mg test/week (blew up at this dosage), dbol, anadrol, winny, anavar...not all at the same time. This is a rought draft as I just came up with it tonight. Cycle will be 75 days.

day 1-75 150mg test prop EOD (525/wk)
day 1-75 150mg tren acetate EOD (525/wk)
day 1-40, oral winny 100mg/day
day 1-14, 29-42, 57-63, 76-80 clen 100-120mcg
day 26-75 anavar 80mg/day
day 41-75 masteron 400mg/week
day 66-75 500IU HCG/day
day 76 200mg clomid
77 150mg clomid
78-84 100mg clomid
85-91 50mg clomid

nolvadex 20mg/day day 1-75 (should I run this through pct?)
adex (not sure on this one, .25 or .5/day while on test?) I don't want any bloat, but have also read that adex can inhibit gains if used at too high dosage. Also, should I go ahead and use the adex through pct? Is it helpful?

If you noticed, I tweaked my clen so as to use it for 5 days in pct to keep cortisol down. Is this worth it?

Will be taking liver enzymes (milk thistle, etc.) to help with high dosages of 17aa.

I have some GH too, but I can't remember how much b/c I don't have it in my possession at the moment. I may run it throughout at maybe 2 IUs if I have enough, but I'm not going to buy anymore.

Thanks in advance for the help fellas.

-RVZ

[ronnievanzant]

Bump...someone has to have an opinion, good or bad.

-RVZ

[PUMPED101]

things i would change:

-pick between anavar and winstrol...no need to run 2 orals at high dosages
-run a-dex or l-dex at .25-.5 ed throughout cycle
-keep nolva on hand in case gyno symptoms arise
-run b-6 at 300 mgs ed for gyno that might be brought upon by the tren...you might want to look into getting some dost or bromo...
-run nolva throughtout PCT with clomid at 20 mgs ed

[ronnievanzant]

Thanks Pumped. I appreciate your input, but I do have one question for you. I anticipated someone would say something about running 2 orals. Do you think that running any oral for 75 days is wrong, or that the 15 days I am running winny and var together is wrong?

-RVZ

[atomicone]

I would recommend the following:

Weeks 1-3: Test Prop 150mg EOD
Weeks 4-5: Test Cyp 500mg EW
Weeks 6-10: Test Cyp 500mg and Masteron 400mg EW
Weeks 11-15: Oxandrolone 25-30mg ED (great for keeping gains)
Weeks 1-15: Armidex .5mg EOD

PCT:
Week 12: HCG 500-1000ius ED for 5-7 days
Week 13: Clomid 100mg ED
Week 14: Clomid 50mg ED
Weeks 12-14: Nolvadex 10-20mg ED.

Note: I preffer Liv52 over Milk Thistle.

Originally Posted by ronnievanzant

Hey bros,
I probably need a little help with this one because I'm using some AAS I've never used before and don't know much about. I've really never done a cycle that wasn't mostly for mass, so this is new ground for me. I'm not planning on starting until January, so there is plenty of time for changes. I already have all my gear. Any comments/advice/affirmations are appreciated.

I'm 6'3 245-250, around 14% (Will probably be around 12% when I start b/c I'm in the process of getting back in shape). I'm a football player and am basically striving to stay in the 250-260 range while increasing strength and lowering bf to work on becoming more efficient and explosive. I've done 3 or 4 cycles before consisting of up to 700mg test/week (blew up at this dosage), dbol, anadrol, winny, anavar...not all at the same time. This is a rought draft as I just came up with it tonight. Cycle will be 75 days.

day 1-75 150mg test prop EOD (525/wk)
day 1-75 150mg tren acetate EOD (525/wk)
day 1-40, oral winny 100mg/day
day 1-14, 29-42, 57-63, 76-80 clen 100-120mcg
day 26-75 anavar 80mg/day
day 41-75 masteron 400mg/week
day 66-75 500IU HCG/day
day 76 200mg clomid
77 150mg clomid
78-84 100mg clomid
85-91 50mg clomid

nolvadex 20mg/day day 1-75 (should I run this through pct?)
adex (not sure on this one, .25 or .5/day while on test?) I don't want any bloat, but have also read that adex can inhibit gains if used at too high dosage. Also, should I go ahead and use the adex through pct? Is it helpful?

If you noticed, I tweaked my clen so as to use it for 5 days in pct to keep cortisol down. Is this worth it?

Will be taking liver enzymes (milk thistle, etc.) to help with high dosages of 17aa.

I have some GH too, but I can't remember how much b/c I don't have it in my possession at the moment. I may run it throughout at maybe 2 IUs if I have enough, but I'm not going to buy anymore.

Thanks in advance for the help fellas.

-RVZ