which cycle should i do (for mass)?

[PipeDreams]

option 1

test 1500mg/week
deca 300-400mg/week
jumpstart w/dball

option 2

test 1500mg/week
EQ 600-800/week
jumpstar w/dball

im looking for not only great mass gains, but keepable gains. not too worried about putting on fat, i will shed it off later.

[joe shmoe]

well deca will give you more size, but know that a good part of it will be water.

i'd go with the EQ. less water. and, its great for the appetite.

as is often said, bulking and cutting is not so much what type of drugs you're using, but the diet that you're using.

have a nice day

[atlmo]

Originally Posted by PipeDreams

option 1

test 1500mg/week
deca 300-400mg/week
jumpstart w/dball

option 2

test 1500mg/week
EQ 600-800/week
jumpstar w/dball

im looking for not only great mass gains, but keepable gains. not too worried about putting on fat, i will shed it off later.

No disrespect friend but if you are asking this question I assume that you havent done that many cycles in the past. If so I am guessing that this is way more AAs than you really need. But to answer teh question you would be okay with either one of the cycles. I choose not to do Deca anymore because I dont like the idea of having detectable AAS in my ssystem for 18 months.

[joe shmoe]

Mo brings out a good point. how many cycles have you done before? what are your stats...height/weight/BF%/years training?

have a nice day

[01dragonslayer]

Originally Posted by joe shmoe

as is often said, bulking and cutting is not so much what type of drugs you're using, but the diet that you're using.

I agree. Your diet is your main concern on deciding on whether you want to cut or bulk. It is possible to cut with a enth/deca cycle, but it may be easier with say a ...prop/tren cycle, or vice versa. Bottom line: your diet, and possibly your amount of cardio, are your keys.

[biganth]

I would go with EQ,Deca is so suppressive and to bounce back from

[Iron Jay]

Originally Posted by biganth

I would go with EQ,Deca is so suppressive and to bounce back from

I HATE deca...It blows...Water retention, no hard-ons, and makes my nuts the size of a peanut...

[raisinnuts]

Originally Posted by Iron Jay

I HATE deca...It blows...Water retention, no hard-ons, and makes my nuts the size of a peanut...

Know exactly how you feel bro, but at my age it's a lot of help for my aching joints and tendons.

[Lil-BIG-Man]

atlmo or anyone else....i'm thinking of taking some deca with test for my first cycle but i'm going to basic training in mid-may....do you know if the army drug tests show steriod use? Thanks.

[atlmo]

Originally Posted by Lil-BIG-Man

atlmo or anyone else....i'm thinking of taking some deca with test for my first cycle but i'm going to basic training in mid-may....do you know if the army drug tests show steriod use? Thanks.

They do not routinely test for it but they can if they choose to for some reason. More importantly though if you ever come up for a Clearance they will likely do a polygraph, and if so they will ask you about illegal drug use. You dont want to fail that question. Also Deca can hang around in your blood for 18 months so I definitely wouldnt do that.

[tazz]

You should get similar results with either of those two cycles.

[Deacon]

go with the EQ cycle bro

[ThePatriot]

Damn man lower your test. Your basing yourself on the more is better routine. I assure you that you dont need that much go with like 750 a week or around there. Just an opinion but save the rest of that gear for another cycle. But you probably made up your own mind anywyas but I would go with the eq at 600 a week.