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Old 01-06-2005, 10:37 PM
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Hey guys...
I'm putting together a cycle with a buddy of mine.
He's been doing this for years... this is just my 2nd round.
Last cycle went very well. I added about 22lbs.... kept 15 so far and I'm in week 6 of PCT.

Last cycle was:
Test E for 1-11 wks (300mg 2Xs per WK)
Tren A 1-11 wks (50mg eod) --this stuff makes my BP sore for 2-3 weeks...until I get used to it.... then I can go ED. Strange but true.--
Nolva 5-11 (20mg ED)

So.....
My buddy is suggesting this for me....

Test Prop - 10 days (and weeks 11-12) (50-75mg ED)
Test Cyp 1-10 TBD (... can't find the suggested dose or schedule of this. So far I'm planning 400-500mg ea WK)
Tren A 1-12 (50mg ED)
EQ 4-12 (225mg 2Xs per WK)
Nolva 3-12 (10-20mg ED)

I need some suggestions on the Test C.
Not finding much on suggested dose and timing.

The EQ is new to me... but that is pretty straight forward.

Any advice on the Test C.... or any of it for that matter?

Thanks.
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cyp can basically be interchanged for test E...their rates of absorption are slightly different, but both are long acting esters, so 2 injects/wk like you did with test E your first cycle is good...you might want to have enough nolva for up to 40mg/day, your first cycle only had test to aromatize and while EQ does not aromatize much, it does a little and it is better to be safe than sorry...start with the 10-20mg/day and you might not need to go to 40mg/day, but have it just in case...also, prop can be very painful for some people (myself included) i have found that if I cut 1cc of prop with .5cc EQ that I have no pain though, so if you do have pain from the prop start your EQ early and get your same total weekly dose by cutting it with the prop...you should do over 130 injects with that cycle ...have fun
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eeeeexcelent.....

I was thinking the C and the E were close to each other in that respect.... but good point on the extra nolva.
I had issues off and on with sore nips mid cycle last time... the nolva helped.
Adding the EQ could tip the scales even more... so I'll bump up my supply just in case.

I was also adding .5cc of sesame oil to my test E doses. For some reason the BA was too high and made my site sore for several days after a dose. The oil took that away nearly 100%. I'll try that with the Test P. (it did the same thing as far as sore site goes).

130 sticks.
lol..... yea... I felt like a pin cushion last cycle.... but got used to it.

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Test Prop - 10 days (and weeks 11-12) (50-75mg ED)
Test Cyp 1-10 TBD (... can't find the suggested dose or schedule of this. So far I'm planning 400-500mg ea WK)
Tren A 1-12 (50mg ED)
EQ 4-12 (225mg 2Xs per WK)
Nolva 3-12 (10-20mg ED)


run the cyp at 500 mgs per week

the EQ HAS to be run 12 weeks so run it full course - and I would include both HCG and clomid since you are running tren that long - IMO you wont recover for shit on only nolva.
I would not run nolva during the cycle unless needed for gyno - it can reduce or hinder gains while run with a cycle.
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