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Old 05-04-2007, 07:04 PM
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Hello people. I would like advice as to what PCT would be needed for this cycle:

Weeks 1-10: Test Enanthate 250mg
Weeks 1-10: EQ 250mg

Also i would like to know what gains can be expected (mass cycle) and what side effects can i expect.

I read that if these two compounds are combined at low doses, there is a much lower possibility of side effects to occur rather that by using one androgen alone in like 500mgs a week.. True? I'm asking because i get really bad acne even on tribulus products (!). If i use 500mgs a day of tribulus for example, i get insomnia and acne breakout issues by the third week. Does this mean that my natural test levels are already high???

Thanks in advance! =)
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Hello people. I would like advice as to what PCT would be needed for this cycle:

Weeks 1-10: Test Enanthate 250mg
Weeks 1-10: EQ 250mg

Also i would like to know what gains can be expected (mass cycle) and what side effects can i expect.

I read that if these two compounds are combined at low doses, there is a much lower possibility of side effects to occur rather that by using one androgen alone in like 500mgs a week.. True? I'm asking because i get really bad acne even on tribulus products (!). If i use 500mgs a day of tribulus for example, i get insomnia and acne breakout issues by the third week. Does this mean that my natural test levels are already high???

Thanks in advance! =)
If I was to use what you posted I would probably just stay about the same no gain or loss. I am being totally serious also. I would have to double what you posted for some gains.
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If I was to use what you posted I would probably just stay about the same no gain or loss. I am being totally serious also. I would have to double what you posted for some gains.
Yeah, but you're an experienced user. I'm not. I've only done one cycle with very light light drugs.
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Yeah, but you're an experienced user. I'm not. I've only done one cycle with very light light drugs.
I've done 6 cycles in 24 years.
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You are not that experienced after all. =) But hey, everybody's different, right? Maybe i could make good gains. Who knows. =) I'm not after something extreme. I'm no fan of Coleman or Cuttler. I tend to be more like Zane. He was the man, oh, and arnold of course!!! =) That's why i'm looking into "light stuff".
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You are not that experienced after all. =) But hey, everybody's different, right? Maybe i could make good gains. Who knows. =) I'm not after something extreme. I'm no fan of Coleman or Cuttler. I tend to be more like Zane. He was the man, oh, and arnold of course!!! =) That's why i'm looking into "light stuff".
Well you will make some gains off that no doubt. The question comes in that if you aren't looking for much, why even use aas, is it worth it for you?
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Hello people. I would like advice as to what PCT would be needed for this cycle:

Weeks 1-10: Test Enanthate 250mg
Weeks 1-10: EQ 250mg

Also i would like to know what gains can be expected (mass cycle) and what side effects can i expect.

I read that if these two compounds are combined at low doses, there is a much lower possibility of side effects to occur rather that by using one androgen alone in like 500mgs a week.. True? I'm asking because i get really bad acne even on tribulus products (!). If i use 500mgs a day of tribulus for example, i get insomnia and acne breakout issues by the third week. Does this mean that my natural test levels are already high???

Thanks in advance! =)
Rein..Go 500 test enth and 300 eq and then this will be considered a "mass" cycle.
You will not gain much they way you have it posted.
If you are going to shut yourself down and have sides you might as well use higher doses bro.
Sides to expect :acne,maybe a few sleepless nights,smaller testes,maybe some hairloss,gyno..etc..you get the picture right ?
Your acne is hormonal and at your young age it should subside with time.pct would consist of nolva at 20 mgs ed for 4-6 weeks,use hcg the entire cycle at 500 iu's per week.
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Rein..Go 500 test enth and 300 eq and then this will be considered a "mass" cycle.
You will not gain much they way you have it posted.
If you are going to shut yourself down and have sides you might as well use higher doses bro.
Sides to expect :acne,maybe a few sleepless nights,smaller testes,maybe some hairloss,gyno..etc..you get the picture right ?
Your acne is hormonal and at your young age it should subside with time.pct would consist of nolva at 20 mgs ed for 4-6 weeks,use hcg the entire cycle at 500 iu's per week.
But also so your not scared straight, not all of us experience all these things. The only thing I have ever experienced was smaller testes and took one 20mg nolva every other day just in case as a prevent. Other than that nothing. I know I said I only did 6 cycles but heres an example of a 16 week cycle of mine including pct would be.
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1000 test e
600 deca
40mg dbol on workout days
20mg dbol on off days

2nd 1/2 of cycle I stop deca and dbol and start 400 Tren E
I will finish my cycle with prop 100mg ED 1 bottle gone.
My results were after I ended my cycle above, I lost 3% body fat from 14% down to 11% and put on about 15 lbs, so my net muscle gain was 22lbs. I topped out at 257 lbs.
My PCT was HCG 1000ED for 2 weeks then Nolva 20mg and IGF 50mcg ed for 40days.
When I was younger and wilder I used anadrol 100mg ED instead of dbol ED along with HGH.
I always would put on 20-30lbs on a cycle and keep 75%of my gains.
Never got acne never lost my hair, slept well and no gyno.
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But also so your not scared straight, not all of us experience all these things. The only thing I have ever experienced was smaller testes and took one 20mg nolva every other day just in case as a prevent. Other than that nothing. I know I said I only did 6 cycles but heres an example of a 16 week cycle of mine including pct would be.
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1000 test e
600 deca
40mg dbol on workout days
20mg dbol on off days

2nd 1/2 of cycle I stop deca and dbol and start 400 Tren E
I will finish my cycle with prop 100mg ED 1 bottle gone.
My results were after I ended my cycle above, I lost 3% body fat from 14% down to 11% and put on about 15 lbs, so my net muscle gain was 22lbs. I topped out at 257 lbs.
My PCT was HCG 1000ED for 2 weeks then Nolva 20mg and IGF 50mcg ed for 40days.
When I was younger and wilder I used anadrol 100mg ED instead of dbol ED along with HGH.
I always would put on 20-30lbs on a cycle and keep 75%of my gains.
Never got acne never lost my hair, slept well and no gyno.
yeah I ran 250mg twice a day test suspension, no sides at all!
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yeah I ran 250mg twice a day test suspension, no sides at all!
Yikes! twice a day Yikes!
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Yikes! twice a day Yikes!
Yeah, a had a second penis growing out of my ear, i told you that before right?
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Yeah, a had a second penis growing out of my ear, i told you that before right?
LOOOOOOL! Alright people! I will think of doing 500mgs test, 250mgs eq after December as i have my birthday on December 1st (i turn 20). I hate acne also and that's a good reason i would like to run the cycle winter time. No one will see the bacne i'll develop then (especially the ladies for which i care more). It's true that eq will counteract tests sides a little bit? If i add T-bol for six weeks will this imrove my gains (talking about the low dose cycle). I can gain naturally only by using a very expensive creatine product which works wonders for me. By the way, diet and sleep are in check and training, well i devote at least 8-10 hours a weeks to think about my routines and stuff. Motherfucking small bones.
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LOOOOOOL! Alright people! I will think of doing 500mgs test, 250mgs eq after December as i have my birthday on December 1st (i turn 20). I hate acne also and that's a good reason i would like to run the cycle winter time. No one will see the bacne i'll develop then (especially the ladies for which i care more). It's true that eq will counteract tests sides a little bit? If i add T-bol for six weeks will this imrove my gains (talking about the low dose cycle). I can gain naturally only by using a very expensive creatine product which works wonders for me. By the way, diet and sleep are in check and training, well i devote at least 8-10 hours a weeks to think about my routines and stuff. Motherfucking small bones.
I am tellin ya test suspension 2 x a day 250mg a pop!!!
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LOOOOOOL! Alright people! I will think of doing 500mgs test, 250mgs eq after December as i have my birthday on December 1st (i turn 20). I hate acne also and that's a good reason i would like to run the cycle winter time. No one will see the bacne i'll develop then (especially the ladies for which i care more). It's true that eq will counteract tests sides a little bit? If i add T-bol for six weeks will this imrove my gains (talking about the low dose cycle). I can gain naturally only by using a very expensive creatine product which works wonders for me. By the way, diet and sleep are in check and training, well i devote at least 8-10 hours a weeks to think about my routines and stuff. Motherfucking small bones.
rein..you are getting closer now but 250 mgs eq ??Come on brother..kick it up to 300 mgs..you won't grow an extra penis i promise..yours will just get shorter ! Hey about your small/light bones..seriously..the thinner you are at your wrists and ankles the bigger your forearms and calves will appear.
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I personally think eq is like 1/2 strenget test. The only way I know to thicken and strengthen your bones is keep reps low with heavy weights and overloads with walkouts, hand outs and rack pulls.
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