cycle option

[logen32]

Sats
Age 22
Height: 6' 3.5"
Weight: 245
Bf: 16%
Cycle Exp: Test Suspension for six weeks
training exp: 4 years

So i wanna run a cycle to help keep on mass while cardio is increased. I wanna drop to 7-8% for this summer. Im at 15-16% and started low intensity Cardio. I think I would start the cycle when hitting 10.

It would be test prop at 500mgs per weeks for 8 weeks

now im wondering what would be a better option.

Test prop 500mgs
Tbol 30mgs 1-5
Anavar 25mgs 1-6 (would this be to weak of a dose ?)

Or Run

Test prop 500mgs 1-8
Tbol 50mgs 1-6

Suggestions are appreciated

[bigbench]

How many cycles have you done before? Why only do the test when you get to 10? You will lose a bit of muscle before then. If I was doing it (again, me, not you) I would run it like this

Prop 500mgs/week 1-12
Tbol 50mgs/day 1-4
Var 60mgs 6 or 7-12

What is your diet like and are you cutting now?

[dennis]

Originally Posted by bigbench

How many cycles have you done before? Why only do the test when you get to 10? You will lose a bit of muscle before then. If I was doing it (again, me, not you) I would run it like this

Prop 500mgs/week 1-12
Tbol 50mgs/day 1-4
Var 60mgs 6 or 7-12

What is your diet like and are you cutting now?

Hey bench..why the tbol.???.Teach me something ..!

[LifeSize]

Both of you have me on edge with the Prop.. Lol.. I know it's going to be bloody hell to run 12 weeks of ed injections, something tells me it will be worth it.. Heh..

Just found out my dnp will be unavailable for the next 3 months, I may just start my cycle..

[bigbench]

Life, you can run prop EOD to save yourself some soreness

And Dennis, I love using androgenics up to contests (dbol, drol, etc..) But even with the cleanest diet its still hard to keep the water weight off. Those compounds make a huge difference in your muscularity, pumps, fullness, etc.. so Tbol can do all that and yet you dont have to worry about the water weight. As the diet gets harder though, then you switch over to the var to help get rid of the stubborn last few pounds of belly fat.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by bigbench

Life, you can run prop EOD to save yourself some soreness

And Dennis, I love using androgenics up to contests (dbol, drol, etc..) But even with the cleanest diet its still hard to keep the water weight off. Those compounds make a huge difference in your muscularity, pumps, fullness, etc.. so Tbol can do all that and yet you dont have to worry about the water weight. As the diet gets harder though, then you switch over to the var to help get rid of the stubborn last few pounds of belly fat.

Brilliant bro ! In your opinion how hard is tbol on the liver and how soon do you drop it before a contest ?

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by dennis

Brilliant bro ! In your opinion how hard is tbol on the liver and how soon do you drop it before a contest ?

its pretty harsh just as much as dbol is as my liver enzymes were high from my bloodwork results afer the cycle, even with it having only an androgen level of 6 and an anabolic level of 53 doesnt make it any easier on the liver for some reason.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by andysutils

its pretty harsh just as much as dbol is as my liver enzymes were high from my bloodwork results afer the cycle, even with it having only an androgen level of 6 and an anabolic level of 53 doesnt make it any easier on the liver for some reason.

Yes Andy..remember though that your liver like mine (maybe your liver )has to deal with hep c infection..our levels will always be elevated..so for guys like you and I most orals should be avoided... Role also has hep c...maybe he will throw in his 2 cents here....

[advanced-stealth]

Very nice cycle bench! TBol is great stuff I must say. Var at the end is wonerful.

Originally Posted by bigbench

How many cycles have you done before? Why only do the test when you get to 10? You will lose a bit of muscle before then. If I was doing it (again, me, not you) I would run it like this

Prop 500mgs/week 1-12
Tbol 50mgs/day 1-4
Var 60mgs 6 or 7-12

What is your diet like and are you cutting now?

[logen32]

Well I found that i i do really good on a low carb, high protien.

I was a pretty big kid back in the day. I weighed 280 at 32% bf and through dieting i got myself down to 190. Took me about a little over a year.

Since then iv been clean bulking and brought my self up to 230 and i did my first cycle of test suspension. Not the ideal first cycle but i dealt with the two injections a day and sourness, got myself to 245 and after pct im at 240.

This would be my second cycle.

[bigbench]

Very nice bro. Those are some good numbers. Because of your body type, I would run that cycle starting as soon as you can as to not lose any more muscle. Because of your structure, you will burn muscle nearly as fast as you do fat so you want to hold on to as much as you can.

Dennis, you can use Tbol through a contest if you are using other things. I would use it during my contest if I was on a Prop/Tren/Mast combo. Just use it the last 4 weeks to get the fullness back. If you were to use any oral, I would stick to Var. Besides, who wouldnt like the results from that anyway.

[Thickneck]

Your 22 , you have plenty of test at that age . Just my opinion >Why start down that road at such a young age . I think people should go to their natural limits and then do some cycles .