Cycle please critique

[lowkey]

Alright guys heres the plan i weigh 245-250 range i am very slolid and i have definition (or athletic physique) but i am not ripped and i am not near as strong as i would like to be my plan is to get up to about 260 ripped and VERY strong. Here is my cycle plan please critique and let me know what you guys think.

Week 1-6 500mg sustanon and 150mg/ed anadrol
Week 6-8 500mg sustanon and 500mg Trenbolone Enanthate
Week 9-15 500mg Trenbolone Enanthate and 500mg Primobolan Depot
Week 16-18 500mg Primo and 100mg/eod Winstrol
Week 18-20 100mg/eod Winstrol
Should i replacing the Winstrol with halo is another idea hoping to be more cost effective, or replace the Primo with another drug as well. Please help guys your opinions will be much appreciated.

After post cycle therapy going on hgh to maintain gains. or should i start the hgh sooner and should i use a cortisol blocker and if so what kind.

[desert]

Originally Posted by lowkey

Alright guys heres the plan i weigh 245-250 range i am very slolid and i have definition (or athletic physique) but i am not ripped and i am not near as strong as i would like to be my plan is to get up to about 260 ripped and VERY strong. Here is my cycle plan please critique and let me know what you guys think.

Week 1-6 500mg sustanon and 150mg/ed anadrol
Week 6-8 500mg sustanon and 500mg Trenbolone Enanthate
Week 9-15 500mg Trenbolone Enanthate and 500mg Primobolan Depot
Week 16-18 500mg Primo and 100mg/eod Winstrol
Week 18-20 100mg/eod Winstrol
Should i replacing the Winstrol with halo is another idea hoping to be more cost effective, or replace the Primo with another drug as well. Please help guys your opinions will be much appreciated.

After post cycle therapy going on hgh to maintain gains. or should i start the hgh sooner and should i use a cortisol blocker and if so what kind.

First off, that is a big ol dose of drol. You could replace the primo with deca or EQ. I don't care for Winny because of joint pain, but other bros use it and may give you some guidance. Overall bro if you are only looking for 10 lbs of lbm post cycle, you could accomplish that with just the drol/sust/tren and maybe deca or EQ. Here's my .02

week 1-6 150mg drol
week 1-12 sust 250ml EOD
week 1-8 Tren E 500(i spread it 3-4 days apart but lots of bros say once a week is fine)
week 1-9 400 ml deca or 350ml EQ
week 13 start PCT

This part is knowledge only (I haven't done these so it isn't wisdom yet). After PCT, GH/slin/igf1 seems to be popular in helping to keep gains while keeping bf low. There are lots of great posts on this subject and they are all definitely worth reading. Hope this helps bro. Good luck and keep us posted.

Peace

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

sorry but too complictated.....Your goals is to to get to 260 form 245-250 ripped and very strong.... Your goals will depend on your diet and training... Not aas....Given that.. I think you can accomplish your goals with just a test/tren cycle...Goals are accomplished not mainly on AAS but training and diet...A cycle of 500 mg of test and 500 mg of tren e can do the trick given you have the right training and diet....If you were more advanced, I would do about 50 mg of dbol or 75-100 mg of drol for the first 4-5 weeks......

Right on.

MaxRep

[phatboy1]

i totally agree with max rep. why so much drol? have you used it before?
do you compete? i know a couple of guys that say they need at least 100mg of drol. i responded well to 50mgs (15lbs of water in less than 2 weeks).

i would drop the drol and and do the sust eod. thats what "i" would do because drol kills my appetited and makes me feel like shit. i wouldnt take it without at least 600mg of eq.

DONT FORGET TO PROTECT YOUR LIVER!!!!! milk thistle, tmg, ala ect

[lowkey]

Originally Posted by phatboy1

i totally agree with max rep. why so much drol? have you used it before?
do you compete? i know a couple of guys that say they need at least 100mg of drol. i responded well to 50mgs (15lbs of water in less than 2 weeks).

i would drop the drol and and do the sust eod. thats what "i" would do because drol kills my appetited and makes me feel like shit. i wouldnt take it without at least 600mg of eq.

DONT FORGET TO PROTECT YOUR LIVER!!!!! milk thistle, tmg, ala ect

Yes i have used drol one time before. When i used it i started off with 75mg for the first two weeks then bumped it up to 150mg the next two weeks then dropped down to 75 mg for the last two weeks. Call me crazy but i only gained a total of five pds. And i ate a ridiculous amount of food as usual. But i did experience great strenght gains. It also made me feel like shit as well, hence the reason i wanted to stack it with the sustanon. No i do not compete in body building i am using aas for the purpose of sports. Is there a cycle out there that will give me what im looking for incredible strenght gains denser muscle, and about ten pds all while getting ripped. I am now kinda lost as to where i want to go after listening to your opinoins which i appreciate from all of you. So please keep them coming.
-confused

[BigBilly]

How effective is stacking EQ w/ TREN while on Test? At what dosages...has anyone tried this?

Originally Posted by desert

First off, that is a big ol dose of drol. You could replace the primo with deca or EQ. I don't care for Winny because of joint pain, but other bros use it and may give you some guidance. Overall bro if you are only looking for 10 lbs of lbm post cycle, you could accomplish that with just the drol/sust/tren and maybe deca or EQ. Here's my .02

week 1-6 150mg drol
week 1-12 sust 250ml EOD
week 1-8 Tren E 500(i spread it 3-4 days apart but lots of bros say once a week is fine)
week 1-9 400 ml deca or 350ml EQ
week 13 start PCT

This part is knowledge only (I haven't done these so it isn't wisdom yet). After PCT, GH/slin/igf1 seems to be popular in helping to keep gains while keeping bf low. There are lots of great posts on this subject and they are all definitely worth reading. Hope this helps bro. Good luck and keep us posted.

Peace

[phatboy1]

damn lowkey. all that anadrol and only 5lbs. see how you respond to dbol. man you got to keep this shit simple. this aint molecular biology.
there are many ways to do your cycle. i like asking for cycle suggestions too.

example-
sust- 750mg ew 1-10
dbol- 50mg ed 1-6
tren a-100mg ed 1-10

nolv, arimedex, femmera ect as needed.

some might say that thats a long time to take tren, but i see it being taking much longer all the time.

KEEP IT SIMPLE. GOOD LUCK BRO

[esco]

realistically, i would go with what big karch said ... good luck bro.

[lowkey]

Thanks guys i will let you know what i decide on doing.