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I just started the following cycle last Monday
125mg Test Prop ED week 1-12
100 mg EQ prop ED week 1-12
75 mg Tren Ace EOD week 1-12
50 mg Winny EOD week 1-12

This is first cycle that i am using propinate , i usually use sustanon. When should i start feeling test propinate kick in. I have done 4 shots and i don't feel a thing. I thought that you are supposed to feel propinate kick in right away.

Any input on this would be appreciated
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It's a short lasting ester. You should feel it in a week. Think, it takes d-bol about a week. You should have water gain quickly.
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You should start to feel the prop toward the end of the first wk, but will vary from user to user. I would suggest running the winny ED(instead of EOD) because its very short half-life. Blood levels should remain constant and I would cycle it no longer than 8wks.
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You should start to feel the prop toward the end of the first wk, but will vary from user to user. I would suggest running the winny ED(instead of EOD) because its very short half-life. Blood levels should remain constant and I would cycle it no longer than 8wks.
I am thinking of stopping winny in the beginning and run it ed for weeks 6-12. Do you think it's a good idea? Also do you guys think that i should run tren ED?
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I just started the following cycle last Monday
125mg Test Prop ED week 1-12
100 mg EQ prop ED week 1-12
75 mg Tren Ace EOD week 1-12
50 mg Winny EOD week 1-12
I'm not sure how you came up with your frequency's.

The propionate ester is slower acting than the acetate ester yet you're taking prop ED and ace EOD. It should be the other way around. And winstrol is the shortest of them all, it doesn't even have an ester, and yet it's also EOD. Oops.

It almost looks like you developed your frequency based on the quantity you have instead of basing it on science. Which is always a bassackwards way of doing things.

Prop EOD... Ace ED and Winstrol ED.

By the way, what's the purpose of using such short esters on a long cycle? You'll be taking a minimum of 84 shots, probably more like 126 shots over the 12 weeks and that won't be fun. You'll feel like a human pin cushion. Not to mention the soreness and scar tissue that's going to come from using so much prop.

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I like that idea of running the winny the last 6 weeks better than at the front - also I would run tren acetate ed if it were me

I am curious about that fast acting EQ let me know how it works for you
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I'm not sure how you came up with your frequency's.

The propionate ester is slower acting than the acetate ester yet you're taking prop ED and ace EOD. It should be the other way around. And winstrol is the shortest of them all, it doesn't even have an ester, and yet it's also EOD. Oops.

It almost looks like you developed your frequency based on the quantity you have instead of basing it on science. Which is always a bassackwards way of doing things.

Prop EOD... Ace ED and Winstrol ED.

By the way, what's the purpose of using such short esters on a long cycle? You'll be taking a minimum of 84 shots, probably more like 126 shots over the 12 weeks and that won't be fun. You'll feel like a human pin cushion. Not to mention the soreness and scar tissue that's going to come from using so much prop.

Good luck,
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So, do you think the better cycle would be:
Test Prop 125 mg EOD week 1-12
EQ Prop 125 mg EOD week 1-12
Tren 75 mg ED week 1-12
Winny ED week 6-12

Thanks for your input
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