cycle tweaking

[joeycrabcakes]

need advice. was planning to bulk on next cycle. was going to use either:

dbol
deca
test enan

OR

dbol
EQ
test enan

but then tren enan came into play. overkill if i run tren with either of those two? maybe substitute deca or EQ with tren? have cycled before, but not too many under my belt, so maybe save tren for when i'm more advanced? And have used all of those before, and like the results for different reasons. Loved EQ for the vascularity, but did nothing for my appetite. Loved deca for the water retention and weight gain. And just loved tren for everything. Since EQ did nothing for my appetite, leaning toward deca instead. But like i said, dbol, deca, test AND tren too much? Awwww, F-it, maybe i'll just do the mega:

dbol
deca
EQ
test
tren
anavar!!!!

170 lbs
~15% bf
age in 30's

[makoman]

Originally Posted by joeycrabcakes

need advice. was planning to bulk on next cycle. was going to use either:

dbol
deca
test enan

OR

dbol
EQ
test enan

but then tren enan came into play. overkill if i run tren with either of those two? maybe substitute deca or EQ with tren? have cycled before, but not too many under my belt, so maybe save tren for when i'm more advanced? And have used all of those before, and like the results for different reasons. Loved EQ for the vascularity, but did nothing for my appetite. Loved deca for the water retention and weight gain. And just loved tren for everything. Since EQ did nothing for my appetite, leaning toward deca instead. But like i said, dbol, deca, test AND tren too much? Awwww, F-it, maybe i'll just do the mega:

dbol
deca
EQ
test
tren
anavar!!!!

170 lbs
~15% bf
age in 30's

I would not reccomend taking the tren and Deca at the same time. My friend had horrible problems with the same type cycle and I think these two compounds did it because when he quit them both, the problems went away aka not titties. Use Deca for total mass and tren for quality mass gains.

[KCSMAN]

I Think The Dbol And Eq Will Be A Compromise Cycle. In Other Words You Will Gain Muscle Mass And When Coming Off The Cycle You Will Retain Most Of The Gains. Md Had And Article About The Different Types Of Cycles. The Compromise One Is In My Opnion The Best As Far As Keeping Muscle.

[joeycrabcakes]

ok, decided on EQ instead of deca. but add tren? or just keep it dbol, EQ and test?

[Animalhouse]

I would stick to 3 compounds- tren is overkill given as you said your intermediate gear experience and quite low bodyweight. what doses of each will you be using and for how long mate?

[Adogg4]

bro you could run EQ and test for 12 weeks, each, kick things off with the dbol, and run the tren for say the last 6 weeks of your cycle, and while the test and EQ are clearing your system.

I agree. Dbol shouldn't be run the entire time and staying on Tren for longer then 6 weeks may not be beneficial either. Like Adogg said, run Test/EQ for the entire 12 weeks. Use Dbol for the first 6 and Tren for the remaining 6.

Originally Posted by Adogg4

bro you could run EQ and test for 12 weeks, each, kick things off with the dbol, and run the tren for say the last 6 weeks of your cycle, and while the test and EQ are clearing your system.

[krom]

Originally Posted by KTCKSports

I agree. Dbol shouldn't be run the entire time and staying on Tren for longer then 6 weeks may not be beneficial either. Like Adogg said, run Test/EQ for the entire 12 weeks. Use Dbol for the first 6 and Tren for the remaining 6.

This is my next cycle except going 14 weeks instead of twelve.

80% of my gains are made early on in my cycle. Therefore I'm trying something new. A 8 week cycle of:

100 mg Anadrol daily - weeks 1-4
75mg Tren A, 75mg Prop, 50 mg Enan daily - weeks 1-8
50 mg Winny daily- weeks 5-7
Begin Primo bridge 200 mg per week in week 8.

Originally Posted by krom

This is my next cycle except going 14 weeks instead of twelve.

[joeycrabcakes]

i like the 12 week idea. I guess i'll do this

dbol 50mgs/day/1st 6 weeks
EQ 600mgs/week all 12 weeks
Test enan 750mgs/week all 12 weeks

will probably end there, but MIGHT throw in tren 375mgs/week for last 6 weeks. thanks for the advice, guys.

[Biggergriz]

Originally Posted by joeycrabcakes

i like the 12 week idea. I guess i'll do this

dbol 50mgs/day/1st 6 weeks
EQ 600mgs/week all 12 weeks
Test enan 750mgs/week all 12 weeks

will probably end there, but MIGHT throw in tren 375mgs/week for last 6 weeks. thanks for the advice, guys.

Looks good bro. I'd save the tren for your next cutter, but that's just me. Please don't take offense, but, you may have a few cycles under your belt but at 170lbs, they must not have been too successful. What does your diet and PCT look like??? There are ways to keep just about ALL of your gains.....

[joeycrabcakes]

no offense taken, thats why we are here, to give constructive criticism. I was a TRUE hardgainer, never could gain weight no matter how much i ate or worked out. I would tone up, but couldnt put on mass. Was very athletic, so probably burned any extra calories i took in. I was only 135 pounds at 5'6" well into my 20's, so theroretically my past "help" has definitely helped me form a different body shape. Believe me, i still have problems putting on weight, and follow pretty strict diets. I guess my high metabolism makes it hard to not burn off any extra food. I appreciate the comments, and will leave the tren for another time. For the reasons i mentioned, deca would probably be better than EQ for me, but the EQ is so much cheaper, and doesnt stay in your system as long, however, EQ doesnt help me with my appetite like it does to other people.

[Biggergriz]

Originally Posted by joeycrabcakes

no offense taken, thats why we are here, to give constructive criticism. I was a TRUE hardgainer, never could gain weight no matter how much i ate or worked out. I would tone up, but couldnt put on mass. Was very athletic, so probably burned any extra calories i took in. I was only 135 pounds at 5'6" well into my 20's, so theroretically my past "help" has definitely helped me form a different body shape. Believe me, i still have problems putting on weight, and follow pretty strict diets. I guess my high metabolism makes it hard to not burn off any extra food. I appreciate the comments, and will leave the tren for another time. For the reasons i mentioned, deca would probably be better than EQ for me, but the EQ is so much cheaper, and doesnt stay in your system as long, however, EQ doesnt help me with my appetite like it does to other people.

Hey bro, that's pretty good progress considering the facts you stated. I'd stick with the EQ like you said, and hope you get some great gains....oh shit, I've got to ask....hard gainer with 15% BF?

[joeycrabcakes]

Originally Posted by Biggergriz

Hey bro, that's pretty good progress considering the facts you stated. I'd stick with the EQ like you said, and hope you get some great gains....oh shit, I've got to ask....hard gainer with 15% BF?

yeah, my cheap-ass body fat scale measures me at 15%, but i know it's wrong. Never really accurately measure my body fat, but i'm assuming it's a lot lower than that. thanks again.

[Turbo1]

Last time whenu ran the EQ what dose did you run it at. I used it on my first cycle and by week 5 or 6 i was hungry 24-7