cyp,deca n dbol stack info.....

[xandermerlin]

hey guys well its about that time 4 a bulking stack n ive decided 2 run cyp,deca n dbol.....im currently at 6'0,195lbs,10-12% bodyfat.....been lifting for about 5yrs n ive run numerous cycles, but never the one mentioned above.....would like some feedback on how many weeks n mgs should b taken n if i should add some hcg during or after cycle.....was planning on upping my caloric intake 2 about 5000/day clean.....well hope 2 hear some positive responses n if u would like anymore info on me just ask.....thanx guys

[peanutbutter]

its great cycle!

500mg testo c week 1-12
400mg deca a week 1-10
50mg d-bol a day 1-6
add nolvadex or best is arimidex 1mg eod 1-14
hcg for end..weeks 13-14-15 2 x 2000-2500iu a week

[dennis]

How old are you ? Deca can be tricky to recover from so you need to be carefull your test is dosed properly,pct is in place..plan for longer recovery,and definately use hcg along the way .I would start the hcg about week 6 if it were me.I like higher dose of deca like 500 - 600 mgs per week and 600-750 mgs test.Dbol first 4 weeks then save some for end of cycle.
deca 500 mgs weeks 1-11
test 600 mgs weeks 1-12
dbol weeks 1-4
dbol weeks 12-14

[xandermerlin]

well im 33yrs.....ill take your advice and up the deca 600mg/wk and the cypionate 750mg/wk.....what is the purpose of taking dbol in the beginning and than finishing up with dbol at the end? starting wk 6 should i than start hcg 250 iu/e4d till what wk? should i split the dbol dosage into 2 or just take all of them in the morning? sorry 4 all the questions, but i wanna get all the correct info i can, b4 i start the cycle....

[newbie23]

Originally Posted by dennis

How old are you ? Deca can be tricky to recover from so you need to be carefull your test is dosed properly,pct is in place..plan for longer recovery,and definately use hcg along the way .I would start the hcg about week 6 if it were me.I like higher dose of deca like 500 - 600 mgs per week and 600-750 mgs test.Dbol first 4 weeks then save some for end of cycle.
deca 500 mgs weeks 1-11
test 600 mgs weeks 1-12
dbol weeks 1-4
dbol weeks 12-14

this will be an awesome cycle-reason you save the dbol for end is so you can bridge it to pct. your gains will slow towards the end of your cycle and the dbol will give you another blast.

[newbie23]

yea split up dbol dose at least 2 times a day-try and take some 2-4 hours before gym.

[BBC3]

You could opt to front load the test at 1200mgs /week for first 3 weeks and then simmer down to 750mgs/wk. This way instead of using to dbol to get over the startup curve you can synergize it with cycle and get huge gains. Run dbol 40mgs /day for last eight weeks of cycle instead of at first. I guarantee massive results. I simply do not believe in starting a cycle out with dbol and then dropping. Personally once I hit week 6 and then I am left with test/deca only, it is ALWAYS a let down. Dbol is a powerful steroid and should be used throughout peak of cycle and appreciated! With deca in the mix, don't you want to maximize your gains? Deca is renound for its great long term muscle building properties. So build em up with the massive dbol strength, and with the deca/test base, you cant help but win. Also, you might consider running 16 weeks total as deca should not be used less than 12 weeks to get results. If you are going to shut yourself down for three months post cycle regardless, why not maximize your gain time.!

[dennis]

16 weeks of deca could be brutal to recover from resulting in major loss of gains not to mention erections and libido.

[ULTIMATE WARRIOR]

HI BRO,

....gonna start a cycle pretty like your in the next weeks....just at the end - LAST 2 WEEKS - I'm going to use VAR @ 30mg/d.....think this could be much better - than the D-BOL - for keep your gains !

[BBC3]

Dennis is correct about Deca being a long recovery. Like a I stated in the PM, I believe DBOL has to work out of fat stores once saturated. Deca has a fifteen day halflife. But this does not account for it turning up in steroid test for up to a year post cycle, I believe this has to do with fat saturation, and the fat that it is difficult to release from fatty stores. Just my hunch. The body makes a miniscule amount of deca (nandrolone). So you can imagine that as long as your body still has the slightest amount, it could shut you back down. This is why I would not start a deca /test pct for 1-2 months post cycle. I might even be prepared to supplement 200mgs test /week during that first two months post cycle (if you wait to start PCT). The test clears the system in about 4-6 weeks tops, so if you are shut down from the deca regardless, there should be no issue supping some test in the meantime. I read so many post about people trying to recover from deca and getting through a PCT just to shut right back down. WHAT IS THE POINT in starting a PCT if the chemical that shut you down is going to be there in your system in quantities that will shut you back down when you finish the PCT??? OF course you will shut back down. Once you discontinue you cycle (week 12 or 16), you will not even feel the lessened effects for about a month regardless. So wait one more and start your clomid/nolva PCT and you will have better odds of full recovery. I have a buddy that recently quit a cycle like this and he continued to gain for 6 weeks! Every one is different though. With regard to the muscle loss, if you keep a clean diet with whatever amount of calories you were eating to gain this muscle while on, you should keep most of it while off. Just dont do anything "catabolic" so to speak. Again everyone is different and if you do take my advice and run the DBOL for the last eight weeks of your cycle, you probably will feel a diminishment in strenth post cycle, but wouldn't that be better then than at week 6 or 8? Dbol is just powerful stuff. It is also a good bloater. You will loose this water weight for sure and any energy that your muscles have due to the excess reserves of fluid that the DBOL gave you. Eat right and work out lightly and I think you can hold the majority of any real muscle you gain anyway. Remember that "weight" is not a sole indicator of muscular capacity and mass. Fluid retention will give you plenty of weight, it adds fuel to you muscle as well. But the true muscle you will retain for walking around after will be the lean remains. With regard to the post advising you to consider Anavar. I would advise running that combo in future for you and stick to basics for now. Anavar is touted for lean strength, but it takes 60mgs/day which is very expensive unless you have a powder source. And it will also give you some nasty indigestion, FAST. Dennis knows his business. he is simply offering a fair warning. As long as you have read the above, then you have the knowledge to be prepared and therefore no suprises, no let downs.