d-bol

[scott weiland]

What's up Bro's?

I'm a little over halfway through a Sust/d-bol 12 weeker. And it's going great! I ran 30mg/ed of d-bol for the first 4 weeks. Is it o.k. to run another 4 weeks after sust runs and after PCT? If so, this will be a great cycle for me. My strength, gains, energy and everything has been excellent. In my 1st 3 cycles I did'nt get a lot of protein. This cycle I've eaten like a horse, drank a lot of beer and alot of protein shakes. And its really made the difference. I dont think some guys realize how important diet and protein intake are.
Anyway, how about some feedback!! Later,
WEILAND

[atomicone]

I would not run D-Bol after your cycle that would be counter productive. I'd run something like the following:

Week 14: 500-1000mcg of HCG ED + 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 15: 100mg Clomid ED + 30-40mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 16: 50mg Clomid ED + 20mg of Nolvadex ED

Note: The only oral that won't affect your natural T production from coming back would be Oxandrolone at 20-25mg ED. I have found that running Oxandrolone for 3-4 weeks post cycle helps me keep gains and strenght.

[wiredup]

Originally Posted by scott weiland

This cycle I've eaten like a horse, drank a lot of beer and alot of protein shakes.

4th cycle and you still think it's okay to drink beer on cycle? oh boy.....you need to stop using gear and learn more.

[fulforb]

Beer, new supplement I wasn't aware of. MRP's maybe but why zap the liver with Oral's and Beer.

[atomicone]

Is it just me or does it seem there are more and more people out there trying AAS who don't know their head from their ass? I must read a half a dozen of these posts ED. People, do your homework first and then when you think you got a clue study some more.

[metmike]

u got a point there man just goes to show the differenc in between the lifers and the ones who just want to look good

[wiredup]

Originally Posted by atomicone

Is it just me or does it seem there are more and more people out there trying AAS who don't know their head from their ass? I must read a half a dozen of these posts ED. People, do your homework first and then when you think you got a clue study some more.

you must have missed his beer statement the first time since you gave him some good advice in your first post. i saw his beer comment and told myself not to waste time giving the guy advice since he obviously doesn't care about what he's doing to his body. maybe he'll listen to both of us and drop the beer and follow your advice.

[intensity123]

ha, knew you were going to get nailed on the beer bit!!!
people love ragging on someone who drinks during a cycle-even though Arnold drank a six pack after his workouts walking down the beach-by the way MD did an article a couple of months ago that spoke of a study that showed how test actually protects the liver from moderate alcohol consumption
look at running clomid,clen, and creatine at the end of your cycle
BOTTOMS UP BRO

[Dantelikesit2]

I am amazed at how the "lifers" love to belittle those who write into these forums with questions, comments or just needing a little support for their efforts. I thought that's what these forums were for; to ask advice and receive comments from those who are more experienced and have more information that they wanted to share with the novice.

I know that if I wrote in asking advice from the "experts" and all they give me is grief and rip me a new asshole for not using a product to their exacting specifications or from not working out to their level of studhood, I doubt I would ever post another question again.

Then, I guess when I continue doing things wrong, that could be done better and easily corrected with the proper advice, it's all my fault because I don't read and research enough, not their fault for not giving me a little more sympathetic and helpful advice.

I wonder if it ever occured to the "experts" that some people don't research well or dissiminate information from various sources as well as the experts do! For these people, a little timely and well packaged information can make a big difference in their ability to successfully begin or continue a training regimine that just may well change their life... hopefully for the better!

Dante

[atomicone]

I have no problem giving someone reasonable advice, but there are those who come on this board and post some of the most unbelievable stuff. Things that defy common sense, and they are asking to get negative feedback.

Originally Posted by Dantelikesit2

I am amazed at how the "lifers" love to belittle those who write into these forums with questions, comments or just needing a little support for their efforts. I thought that's what these forums were for; to ask advice and receive comments from those who are more experienced and have more information that they wanted to share with the novice.

I know that if I wrote in asking advice from the "experts" and all they give me is grief and rip me a new asshole for not using a product to their exacting specifications or from not working out to their level of studhood, I doubt I would ever post another question again.

Then, I guess when I continue doing things wrong, that could be done better and easily corrected with the proper advice, it's all my fault because I don't read and research enough, not their fault for not giving me a little more sympathetic and helpful advice.

I wonder if it ever occured to the "experts" that some people don't research well or dissiminate information from various sources as well as the experts do! For these people, a little timely and well packaged information can make a big difference in their ability to successfully begin or continue a training regimine that just may well change their life... hopefully for the better!

Dante

[wiredup]

Originally Posted by Dantelikesit2

it's all my fault because I don't read and research enough, not their fault for not giving me a little more sympathetic and helpful advice.

that's exactly correct!

Originally Posted by Dantelikesit2

I wonder if it ever occured to the "experts" that some people don't research well or dissiminate information from various sources as well as the experts do!

well then they don't need to be taking gear then cause there will be times when they need to dissiminate what they're body's doing and reacting. if they can't figure out how to research and interpret data, then they don't need to be doing gear.

Originally Posted by Dantelikesit2

For these people, a little timely and well packaged information can make a big difference in their ability to successfully begin or continue a training regimine that just may well change their life... hopefully for the better!

Dante

first, if they're just beginning training, they don't need to be on here asking for gear. they need to train for 2 years minimum and then come back. there's pleny of boards out there that have well laid out, easy to understand information writen specifically for newbies. they need to spend a minimum of 6 months reading, researching and trying to decide stuff on their own. if they can't do that, they're not mature enough to handle gear and will likely just wind up hurting themselves. i'm no expert or lifer by any means. i just got into this this year. i did the research first before asking stupid, idiotic questions like, "whats a good cycle for a newbie?" that tells me that the person hasn't researched anything and is just fishinng for an easy answer that i'm not going to give them. now if they research some and come back with a detailed cycle and ask for advice on that cycle, then thats when people are willing to help them. learning this stuff on their own will help them build character. like the original poster. he's on his 4th cycle and still thinks its okay to drink "tons of beer" he obviously didn't do his research early on and probably just took someone's
"timely and well packaged information"
and ran with it and never bothered to learn the risks of certain behavior. someone's "timely and well packaged information" is probably the reason that this guy is killing his liver.

[fulforb]

So do you just cut and paste this in other boards also. Seen it the other day and sure did look familiar. So do just want to openly slam the MODS on all boards os just some.

[wiredup]

Originally Posted by fulforb

So do you just cut and paste this in other boards also. Seen it the other day and sure did look familiar. So do just want to openly slam the MODS on all boards os just some.

are you talking to Dantelikesit2, or someone else?

[scott weiland]

Calm down guys. IMO, a few low dose cycles with a few beers is ALOT less damaging than a "lifer" who cycles VERY high amounts for 10-15 years. And alot of bros will agree with me.
This is my last cycle. Over 2 years and 4 cycles, I've gone from 6'2" 160 to 6'2" 215. I look great and feel great and I'm not the skinny guy anymore. I'm not in competition and not a bodybuilder. I just wanted weight, and I worked hard and got it and I'm very fucking satisfied. So, flame if you will, all I did was ask a simple question. Alot of bros wont like this, but some will agree.
Flame away!!
WEILAND

[grisb81]

alcohol and d-bol I bet your liver looks like swiss cheese