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I've done a few test/deca cycles in the past and came across some british dragon dbol 50/mg tabs. I've been doing a dbol only cycle of 50mg every day for 4 weeks and found some BD anadrol 50/mg tabs that I bought. Would it be ok to go dbol weeks 1-5 then anadrol weeks 6-10? Or do I need to take some time off before hitting anadrol? Thanks in advance.

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I've done a few test/deca cycles in the past and came across some british dragon dbol 50/mg tabs. I've been doing a dbol only cycle of 50mg every day for 4 weeks and found some BD anadrol 50/mg tabs that I bought. Would it be ok to go dbol weeks 1-5 then anadrol weeks 6-10? Or do I need to take some time off before hitting anadrol? Thanks in advance.

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You're liver is gonna jump outta you and kick you in the nuts. That's way too much stress to be putting on your liver bro. Just leave the A-drol for another cycle....
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I thought so. Thanks.

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It's funny how everyone automatically says 'NO, your liver will cop a beating'.

Sure, in most people it's generally not a good idea to go over 4 weeks with orals. But if you're doing things the right way and are getting bloods taken from your doctor every two weeks, I don't see how it's such a BAD idea if you're liver enzymes are still in the normal range.

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Liver toxicity is over rate with 17alk.Look at Acetaminophen aka Tylenol it has a liver toxicity rating the same as Androl.And doctor's perscride it for up to 12 week.The key is to use thing that help liver function the list is endless.I would say that if you used a 17alk for 8-10 week 1's a year you would not see any adverse affect's.
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Your liver is not an organ to be taken lightly. I would rather be safe than sorry. Plus, mg for mg, dbol is stronger than anadrol. I gain more off of 30-40mgs/day dbol than i do of 75mgs/day anadrol. Mabye its just me but I think dbol is better and the dosage is more easily controlled with 5mg tabs. Also, dbol is relatively cheap. Stick with dbol but I would say 5-6 weeks tops. Don't risk it by putting a stress on your body just because dr's perscribe tylenol longer. Its not a very good reason to take your chances. Tylenol is perscribed to solve a problem so, in the dr.'s opinon, the risk may be worth it. For juice, the bodily risk just isn't.
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The effects of long term oral steroid use in normal, healthy bodybuilders has to my knowledge not been studied at all, so anything we say is either 1) anecdotal evidence or 2) extrapolated from studies done on sick people...I think there was one done on HIV patients who used Anadrol for a year @ 300mg/day and their livers were fine if I remember correctly.

So, while we may say that one should not stay on orals for more than 4-6 weeks, this to my knowledge is just an underground rule of thumb and by no means suggests that one's liver will explode if you choose to use d-bol for 7 weeks.

However, I think most will agree in that orals tend to not be as effective after 4-6 weeks so why possibly put unnecessary strain on your liver?
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300mg a day for a year?!?!
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i love two weeks drol, two weeks dbol. keep switching for the whole length of your cycle. you will love it.
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Anapolon was promoted for continuous use in hereditary anaemias, so I presume the toxicity is overstated.

valporate is toxic to the liver, but epileptics dont cycle it.
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who actually get blood tests every 2 weeks?????? Bj
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good point bj
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who actually get blood tests every 2 weeks?????? Bj
Myself and a few other guys I know. Not too sure how it works in the states, but over here all tests are free and are done upon request. Doesn't hurt to see what's happening to your body throughout cycle.
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the anadrol study JDUB is talking about was done on young anemic children who were very probably going to die anyway (ages 8-12 I think) and they were given 200-300 mgs per day for up to 3 years in some cases. There were no adverse effects as far as liver damage reported in these studies. Does that mean I would do something like this? Hell no.

also there was a recent study where subjects were given 120 mgs of d-bol ed for 8-10 weeks with no reported change in liver or other organ values. As I said doesnt mean I would do it though

as to the original question above - why run that long oral cycle adn no injectables? Foolish IMO
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the anadrol study JDUB is talking about was done on young anemic children who were very probably going to die anyway (ages 8-12 I think) and they were given 200-300 mgs per day for up to 3 years in some cases. There were no adverse effects as far as liver damage reported in these studies. Does that mean I would do something like this? Hell no.

also there was a recent study where subjects were given 120 mgs of d-bol ed for 8-10 weeks with no reported change in liver or other organ values. As I said doesnt mean I would do it though

as to the original question above - why run that long oral cycle adn no injectables? Foolish IMO
You're always going to find some success stories, like the chick who had an affair with a married man who ultimately divorced his wife to live happily ever after with her, or the 13-year long distance relationship that ended in a disney marriage. Likewise you will hear of the kids who took drol for 3 years and didnt suffer long-term damage to their liver.

Bottom line is
you never know
everything you do is pure speculation, with "hopes" that you will end up ok in the long run (regarding liver and health) but to me this is like playing russian roulette. My best advice is dont take the chance on your health. So what if you might be ok on 10 weeks of orals? So what if you can only handle 2 before your liver suffers damage? Don't take the gamble. when you decide to extend your oral cycle, take a blood test to BE SURE.

Who does a blood test every 2 weeks? The answer is: people who are serious about their health and are embarking on a potentially detrimental steroid regimen, like an oral cycle.

Lastly, why don't people recommend orals past 4-6 weeks? Because that's what the average joe like you and me can handle, based on our cycle history, and the cycle histories of all our predesessors. Information like this is in existance for a reason! And my brother, you are no exception to the norm. Treat yourself with the same respect you would to a loved one. Don't think you are invulnerable. Follow the advice of the more experienced bros on the board....dont extend your cycle.

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