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Old 02-06-2005, 03:59 PM
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Just out of curiosity... Can anyone here actually EXPLAIN what the difference is between a Dbol only cycle and a M1T only cycle that makes M1T so much more accepted as an oral only cycle? I don't understand why someone can say M1T is ok to do by itself and dbol is not....

--- Nolva or Adex would be taken with Dbol
--- something like 1-AD or 4-androdiol would be taken with M1T
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Personally, I wouldn't bother with any of the above-dbol (alone or with anti-e's)
-M1T (with a goat or in a boat)

By the way, people may be friendlier towards m1t cause it's used at lower doses than dbol. ex. 10-20mg/day as opposed to 30-50mg/day
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Personally, I wouldn't bother with any of the above-dbol (alone or with anti-e's)
-M1T (with a goat or in a boat)

By the way, people may be friendlier towards m1t cause it's used at lower doses than dbol. ex. 10-20mg/day as opposed to 30-50mg/day
how is the lower dosage supposed to be more beneficial?
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I dont think M1T is any better than dbol. all the feedback i've gotten from users is that they get all the sides, bloody noses, bloat, etc with M1T and minimal to no gains. I'd go with dbol any day.
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i would assume there would be less "stuff" going through your liver. therefore, if you can get comparable results with lower dosages, it's probably better.

this is, however, speculation.
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I dont think M1T is any better than dbol. all the feedback i've gotten from users is that they get all the sides, bloody noses, bloat, etc with M1T and minimal to no gains. I'd go with dbol any day.
Bloody noses with m1T? That's a first. I've been through that stuff 3 times already at 20-30mgs/ED for 6-8 weeks at a time and never had a side other than lethargy the first time i took it. But hey, everyone is different. That is just my experience.
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Bloody noses with m1T? That's a first. I've been through that stuff 3 times already at 20-30mgs/ED for 6-8 weeks at a time and never had a side other than lethargy the first time i took it. But hey, everyone is different. That is just my experience.
yup bloody noses is one of the complaints i've heard from M1T. I agree, everyone responds differently so you won't know till you try it. However, everyone seems to have more negative comments about this substance than dbol.
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I feel the M1T is actually closer to DROL with the sides. I never notice that DBOL causes any lethargy of appetite probelms like DROL and M1T does. They all3 seem to have the back pump issue though.
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i would assume there would be less "stuff" going through your liver. therefore, if you can get comparable results with lower dosages, it's probably better.

this is, however, speculation.
Unfortunately just because M1T and Dbol are run at different dosages dosn't mean the effective dose of either one isn't as hard on your liver as the dose of the other. I've been looking for some heptoxicity M1T studies but can't really find any. I have some of Dbol but I'd like to show a comparison. I'll keep looking should be able to find some in a few days after I ask a professor of mine. Anyways.....

I guess the point I was originally trying to make with this post was that there is no difference between M1T and Dbol when it comes to retaining gains, provided that you only take muscle gains into account and your not one of the idiots who counts water retention as weight gained.

Does everyone agree then? No fundamental difference between Dbol and M1T?
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besides lethargy m1 gives you crazy strength gains
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