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Old 05-12-2004, 06:18 AM
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Considering a Deca only cycle...

I relise that some of these questions may be a bit cauious especially compared to highly andro cycles but I want to reduce the likelyhood of
Gyno as much as possible; other side effects I'm not as worried about. In general I'm going for safe but low impact cycles. I understand this
may be a bit different to what some guys on here might do but it's my way. I'm sure you'd feel the same with a wiener.

On a Deca only cycle I understand that I'm likely to find it hard to get an errection.
This is something I don't really understand. What causes this? I didn't think Deca reduces Test so why should there be a problem? Is this the
only side effect associated with whatever causes this?

Given that I don't mind losing errections _temporarily_:

- What is likely to cause the least gyno?
- Deca only cycle
- Deca with a little Test cycle?
- Could I use Viagra for 'emergencies'?

Deca & Gyno:

- Gyno = short for?
- Has anyone on here had this on Deca only? Has anyone here been on Deca only?
- What are the effects other than Bitch Tits?
- cock shrinkage?
- any other effects?
Cock shrinkage is my main concern; it's small enough as it is

- How can you reduce the problems with Deca and Gyno? Has there been any successful aromatase inhibition with Deca?
- Does Test increase greatly on Deca and is this the causes of Gyno with Deca?
- How can I monitor things? I feel it's better to be able to watch Estrogen levels than wait to see a perminent side-effect.

I've heard some gyno problems on Deca. What's the alternative to avoid this? Anyone know of any totally non gyno? Is B6 Vitimin B6? What about Arimidex?

I've noticed Gynco seems to be worst when taking low doses of anything, is this right?

At first I thought Deca was the safest bet. However, after reading around I've seen people with Gyno on low doses of Deca. Since I was thinking of low dosing, is there anything less Gyno than Deca?
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Old 05-12-2004, 12:49 PM
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Its obvious that your lacking in knowledge that basic research will answer,,,Study all drug profiles,,,Do searches on gyno(gynecomastia), deca,,,VDC
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Read in the drug profiles, deca decreases test by supressing the pituitary from producing LH. You gotta take test with deca or you probably won't get it up. Deca gyno is not clear from what I've read, there are some arguments about it. Do a search, Einstein has put a lot of info out there.


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Considering a Deca only cycle...

I relise that some of these questions may be a bit cauious especially compared to highly andro cycles but I want to reduce the likelyhood of
Gyno as much as possible; other side effects I'm not as worried about. In general I'm going for safe but low impact cycles. I understand this
may be a bit different to what some guys on here might do but it's my way. I'm sure you'd feel the same with a wiener.

On a Deca only cycle I understand that I'm likely to find it hard to get an errection.
This is something I don't really understand. What causes this? I didn't think Deca reduces Test so why should there be a problem? Is this the
only side effect associated with whatever causes this?

Given that I don't mind losing errections _temporarily_:

- What is likely to cause the least gyno?
- Deca only cycle
- Deca with a little Test cycle?
- Could I use Viagra for 'emergencies'?

Deca & Gyno:

- Gyno = short for?
- Has anyone on here had this on Deca only? Has anyone here been on Deca only?
- What are the effects other than Bitch Tits?
- cock shrinkage?
- any other effects?
Cock shrinkage is my main concern; it's small enough as it is

- How can you reduce the problems with Deca and Gyno? Has there been any successful aromatase inhibition with Deca?
- Does Test increase greatly on Deca and is this the causes of Gyno with Deca?
- How can I monitor things? I feel it's better to be able to watch Estrogen levels than wait to see a perminent side-effect.

I've heard some gyno problems on Deca. What's the alternative to avoid this? Anyone know of any totally non gyno? Is B6 Vitimin B6? What about Arimidex?

I've noticed Gynco seems to be worst when taking low doses of anything, is this right?

At first I thought Deca was the safest bet. However, after reading around I've seen people with Gyno on low doses of Deca. Since I was thinking of low dosing, is there anything less Gyno than Deca?
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Ah, I got it:

2 hormones involved but Deca increases one and decreases the other:

- progestin goes up
- Test goes down via inhibited LH (LH=Luteinizing Hormone; cues testes to make Test)

In addition:

"nandrolone aromatizes to estrogen"
^ but can only be blocked a bit

Conclusion:

Deca not for me. Search continues.
Next one to investigate = Masteron.
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How many cycles you done? Just test is an easy, cheap, low symptom (generally) cycle. Test, daily arimidex and nolva, and then pct with hcg and clomid. See phreezers sticky about cycles.


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Ah, I got it:

2 hormones involved but Deca increases one and decreases the other:

- progestin goes up
- Test goes down via inhibited LH (LH=Luteinizing Hormone; cues testes to make Test)

In addition:

"nandrolone aromatizes to estrogen"
^ but can only be blocked a bit

Conclusion:

Deca not for me. Search continues.
Next one to investigate = Masteron.
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Old 05-13-2004, 05:22 PM
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I'm after the lowest possible symtom cycle.

Considering Anavar+Primo (currently researching), will worry about sourcing it later.

http://www.united-pharmacy.com/cycles_9.asp

http://www.superiormuscle.com/showthread/t-165.html

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