Decent 1st cycle??

[Air bama]

Ok here it is:

Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Tren acetate @ 75mg ED ( question, I have a feeling running tren this long might play hell w/ me. Could I cut this short to about 8 weeks maybe 10???)

31yo 5'10 215 bf% @ 18 (will have BF down to below 15% prior to starting cycle. Will be doing a T3/Clen cycle first)

Are these 3 enough for a decent cycle? If not is there anything else in there you would suggest me adding?

Nolva @ 10mg ED depending on need to raise to 20.

[PUMPED101]

i would change the tren a little...
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 6-14 Tren acetate @ 75mg ED
nolv 10 mgs ed
B-6 200mgs ed
PCT

if you have not already bought the tren ace...go to the classifieds and buy tren enathate from a solid source...they you won't have to deal with the every day or eod injects...ed injects get annoying after a while...


if you pick up tren enanthate run it like this
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Tren enanthete @ 500 mgs EW
nolv 10mgs ed
B-6 200 mgs ed
PCT

Originally Posted by Air bama

Ok here it is:

Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Tren acetate @ 75mg ED ( question, I have a feeling running tren this long might play hell w/ me. Could I cut this short to about 8 weeks maybe 10???)

31yo 5'10 215 bf% @ 18 (will have BF down to below 15% prior to starting cycle. Will be doing a T3/Clen cycle first)

Are these 3 enough for a decent cycle? If not is there anything else in there you would suggest me adding?

Nolva @ 10mg ED depending on need to raise to 20.

[Air bama]

Originally Posted by PUMPED101

i would change the tren a little...
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 6-14 Tren acetate @ 75mg ED
nolv 10 mgs ed
B-6 200mgs ed
PCT

if you have not already bought the tren ace...go to the classifieds and buy tren enathate from a solid source...they you won't have to deal with the every day or eod injects...ed injects get annoying after a while...


if you pick up tren enanthate run it like this
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test e @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Tren enanthete @ 500 mgs EW
nolv 10mgs ed
B-6 200 mgs ed
PCT

Ok that is what I was thinking also. So I will get the same benefits from the enanthate as the acetate. My source...has the enanthate, but seems kinda high, but then again I dont know really. I like the way you laid it out for me. Keeping in mind that my diet is on the money and I am eating good, will I see decent gains from this? Is this a good mass building cycle?

[PUMPED101]

you should grow like a weed off this cycle if your diet, training, rest is on...also if i were you i might even lower the tren enanthate dosages to 350-400 mgs a week...since this is your first cycle..

Originally Posted by Air bama

Ok that is what I was thinking also. So I will get the same benefits from the enanthate as the acetate. My source...has the enanthate, but seems kinda high, but then again I dont know really. I like the way you laid it out for me. Keeping in mind that my diet is on the money and I am eating good, will I see decent gains from this? Is this a good mass building cycle?

[Cronk]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

If you wanted to go for 12 weeks, use tren e.....You can use tren a and get good results, but take a lot of shots... If you can do 8 weeks of tren and be ok with it, 12 weeks should be fine....I dont like using nolva during for an anti e, but prefer dex instead...or the combo....I like using nolva pct....But to answer your question.12 weeks is ok and a good cycle given your diet and training is up to par....If you dont have the gear yet, get tren e with the test e and go for hte 12 weeks with the dbol.....excellent cycle...

12 weeks of dbol Bigkarch? Or the 4 weeks to kick it off?

[Cronk]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

4 weeks bro!!! if you were bigger more experienced I would say 5-6 weeks, but 4 is sufficicient and the next thing you know the tren and test e will kick in....good luck