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Old 03-13-2007, 12:06 PM
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can I cry on your shoulders for a minute ? I have just started week 3 of my bulker,base is 600 test enth/400 deca ew 12 weeks.I am front loading with dbol for 30 days and even used prop eod the first 12 days.My diet is as clean as possible and averaging 3400 -4000 cals per day..I am anal about that..i write down each day what I consume.I am getting enough protien..maybe not quite enough cals but am stuffing myself all day(force feeding) going to bed on oatmeal and 700 call shake etc...not over training.I am a hard gainer to begin with..if I did not eat right and lift wieghts i would be skinny 5'10" and about 145 lbs..43 is my age.I do not possibly see how i could eat anymore per day than i am doing now.I only do 10 minutes cardio about eod..lift only 4 days per week..get 7-9 hours sleep.I never gain big on any aas cycle..ever..maybe 10 -15 pounds total or less ! I have gained only 5 pounds so far this time..might be all water too..not sure.But usually on about day 14 i start to get swole in my arms..today is day 16..My strength has increased some..i keep good records of that...my libido has gone from wanting sex 1 time per week to once per day..a good thing for sure.I had just got over 8 month battle with tendonitis in elbow before i started..my 1st day I started i went to do bench..used normal weight load for me and first set i felt pain in shoulder..needless to say..i cannot flat bench yet from the injury..doing some light incline work and it does not hurt it.I am anal about my size and want to gain some freaking size this time ! My cycle should be dosed for that and the gear is legit no doubt..need some encouraging words..I am lifting alone right now as my other bb friend left town...dennis
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Damn, Dennis. Sorry to hear this. You've given me some great advice over the past year.

Anyway, get a new training partner asap. In the mean time, load Bad Brains, Rock for Life on you i-pod and turn it up.
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I feel like this a lot too. Keep doing what your doing but don't worry about it so much. Your doing everything right but when you think about it and force size upon yourself it seems like it never comes. When you leave the gym TRY hard not to think about lifting or size or aas at all. It is hard but in a week I bet you'll just be getting in the shower and be like wow, maybe I am getting bigger. You'll be ok. And it's still early. Just bust your ass.
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Dennis....get in there and make your workouts productive...be sure and not cut corners because you feel gains are not happening...I agree with the earlier post in that you will walk in front of the mirror in a week, and not feel this way...I look up to your knowledge, as everyone else does...I am not sure about the effectiveness of your gear because I have not done a cycle like that...But hang in there bro and keep your chin up...I am currently running a cycle that has produced weight and strength gains, but not much in the way of visual progress...It sure can be frustrating as hell...Keep diggin' and let me know if I can do anything to help out
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Try to think positive and kick ass in the gym.
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A new partner would help loads..which one of you wants to move here and lift and eat with me ?I am stuffing my pie hole with beef tenderloin as we speak..I am so freaking full ! Eating 4000 cals is very difficult for me.
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A new partner would help loads..which one of you wants to move here and lift and eat with me ?I am stuffing my pie hole with beef tenderloin as we speak..I am so freaking full ! Eating 4000 cals is very difficult for me.
I know . I can barely eat a thick tunafish sandwich without gagging
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Try to think positive and kick ass in the gym.
Amen. That's all you can do really. I used to get really emo about the way I look, then I learned not to think about it. It doesn't do any good. Whenever I feel like I'm doing all I can and not seeing anything I say to myself, "You say you can't do more, but couldn't be you can't do less?" I always find there is more I can do.
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"You say you can't do more, but couldn't be you can't do less?" I always find there is more I can do.
Don't understand, can you rewrite that quote?
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Don't understand, can you rewrite that quote?
Yea I fucked it up.
"You say you can't do more, but couldn't IT be you can't do less?"
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