Dianabol has caused 4 years of impotence, help!

[Mr E]

I am from London England and am a 22 year old male who has encountered difficulties post steroid use. I was 18 when i stupidly tried dianabol. I used it for 2-4 weeks and discontinued when i noticed puffiness around my nipples and on occasion a clear discharge. At this time my erections were incredibly powerful.
Then one day I woke and was incapable of attaining an erection even a flaccid one could not be obtained for.
Last year I sought private treatment, I have tried the following: Cialis, Levitra, Viagra in combination with caverject (alprostadil). Little success, my erection were not strong enough for successful penetration and my testicles had shrunk. Semen volume is very low and it’s consistency is thin and watery.
If my memory serves me correctly my Testosterone were below normal range while my estrogen levels were above normal range. My FSH and LH were in the normal range.
The next course of action was TRT which caused little or now improvement in my condition. Following this I was the treated with HCG (1500 I.U.) twice a week. There was a slight improvement in testicular size but semen quantity and quality were still low while my ball sack was very thin and of a low volume.
Taking into consideration my estrogen levels Anastrozole 1mg (Arimidex) was prescribed on it‘s own, One tablet every three days for about a month with no noticeable changes.
As this didn’t work my doctor decided to continue with HCG as it caused an improvement, 1500 I.U being prescribed three times a week for a month which caused my testicles as well as the volume of my ball sack to increase as well as improved length of penis, circulation and erection strength. I have stopped this treatment for about a week after reading about high doses damaging the Leydig cells. while the condition of my testicles has improved, it has slightly regressed, as has my erection strength and size.
What is going on? 4 years is along time. I don’t remember the dose of dianabol but 4 years is unheard of right?! At the time I knew nothing about steroids or PCT, now I am learning that I would have to have started PCT fairly soon after to avoid this. Is it too late to start it now? Has anyone ever encountered this situation? Can it still be reversed? I don’t think doctors in the U.K. are very experienced in this area, how do you recommend I proceed?

[solo47]

Look, a few weeks of D-bol could not have obliterated your own body's testosterone maintenance system & your libidinal response so completely. Otherwise it would have happened to many of us who have used D-bol routinely at higher doses for longer periods. Your body's tendency toward feminization must already have been genetically present, the result of some childhood accident, or too much masturbation before your balls were fully developed. Caverject should get anybody, dead or alive, hard. Have you tried Test shots at, say, 250 ml week? But since D-bol gave you such raging hard-ons at the time, the question that presents itself is Why don't you go back on it?

Solo

[Mr E]

I agree with your point that it shouldn't have obliterated my body's testosterone maintenance system and my libidinal response. My doctor would also agree with this point. He initially dismissed this, saying that things should have returned to normal by now, however he says my age at the time may have been a factor.
I have tried Testosterone replacement therapy with Sustanon injections to get my testosterone production going. It gave me a high reading but still no luck.
Your point on Caverject was also raised by the doctor so you can only imagine my disappointment when it didn't work, at this point he dismissed any psychological probs.
I really have thought about going back on it but know what happened to me first time, and it's already ruined 4 years of my life + I can't stay on it forever.
What are your thoughts on starting PCT now. I have already been using HCG but have heard the high doses can damage the leydig cells in the testes leading to primary hypogonadism which is permanent. Great progress has been made using it so I will consider using a lower dose more frequently. But I have been reading about Clomide and Tamoxifen and was going to try all three. Is this just desperation or do you know of anyone who uses these for PCT?

[unt0ld]

post cycle therapy 4 years after your last dbol tab.



ROFL.


Sucks for you man, something genetic. not the juice.

Good luck.

[gdawg15]

like above, a few weeks of dbol did not do that..... something is wrong with your nuts bro...... go to the doc and dont even mention roids....let them check you....

i guarantee dbol didnt do that....!

[ForemanRules]

You have a genetic or performance issues. Steroids have nothing to do with it. I recomend you see several Doctors until you figure out the real problem.

[Deacon]

I agree you have something more severe than the d-bol useage 4 years ago - better find specialists who can treat you - or get a prettier girlfriend

[gdawg15]

hahahaha....sorry....deacon that was funny!

[mxim]

first off,the hcg dosage is too high and that is also contributing to your high estrogen levels. i would use hcg 250 iu every other day(for 2 weeks) along with 20 mgs of nolvadex for 5 weeks.(first week of nolva is started on the second week of hcg). on week 4 of nolva drop the dosage to 10mgs and week 5 to 5 mgs. then wait a month and get your blood levels checked. this regiment has proved to be very successful.
mxim

[chap]

wow, so many derogatory unhelpful responses to his questions


Well, I believe that the d-bol could have been the beginning of his problems. It seems that it is possible for the endocrine system to get disrupted and "reset" itself in a stasis that is much different than normal. I suspect that your shbg and aromatase levels are much higher than they were before, and for whatever reason your body seems to think that is the way it should be now.

Blood tests would be a very important first step, find out your estradiol, prolactin and free testosterone levels most importantly, as well as LH.

I believe in a low dose hcg protocal of 100 iu per day every day, which seems to be enough to stimulate your testicles if they are still working, and avoids desensitization. Hcg will also produce estrogen as well, so an AI such as arimidex is often called for.

You might want to check out the Mens Health (HRT) section of this board as your problems are similar to those that are experimenting with HRT and you can learn alot to trying to help doctors solve your problems.