Do you guys include pct time as "off"

[Buff Diddy]

I've often wondered if I can count the time while I'm taking clomid (1 month for me) as "off" time. Or does off time start when your not taking any hormonal agents?

[jaysmithinwesson]

Originally Posted by Buff Diddy

I've often wondered if I can count the time while I'm taking clomid (1 month for me) as "off" time. Or does off time start when your not taking any hormonal agents?

i count that as time off. but still have waited longer. lets see what others say?

[ThePatriot]

I count that as time off as well. Probably cause I cant wait to get back on though lol.

[ipfan1]

Originally Posted by ThePatriot

I count that as time off as well. Probably cause I cant wait to get back on though lol.

same with me. not counting it would make me wait another 3 weeks before i could start my cycle and i can't do that.

[skywalk]

during PCT, you're still on drugs and your endogenous production of test is still sub-par. You want to be off ALL drugs during your time off, hence the name "time off!!!" count the 3 weeks of PCT as part of your cycle. I know you cant wait to start a cycle again but whats 3 more weeks compared to a lifetime of solid muscle, and a set of balls to last you all night.......hehehehe

Skywalk

[B_D]

Hell no!

[ratmonkey]

time off starts when your natural production is back to full and you're off all drugs.

[mr_meanor]

Originally Posted by ratmonkey

time off starts when your natural production is back to full and you're off all drugs.

I agree, its not off for 6 or more weeks depending on what you have been taking

[Rudebwoy]

Time off has always been " after cycle ", As clomid would be considered
part of your cycle, Theres your answer! Be smart bro, in the long run, your organs will take a lickin!

[N4cer]

Time off is time I'm not taking AAS. So I count PCT as off time. It's off or on cycle, not off or on PCT. PCT is NOT the AAS cycle.

See, "POST" means AFTER. So POST-cycle means what? That's right! After cycle!

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by N4cer

Time off is time I'm not taking AAS. So I count PCT as off time. It's off or on cycle, not off or on PCT. PCT is NOT the AAS cycle.

See, "POST" means AFTER. So POST-cycle means what? That's right! After cycle!

Well said... could'nt agree more.

[skywalk]

you all have valid points, but ultimately, its a play with words. off or on, you never know when you're ready till you do a blood test. Once your blood test shows that your endogenous testosterone production is back to normal, give yourself the same number of weeks "off" so if you did a 10week cycle, once your natural test is back to normal, wait 10weeks, then start your next one. You can argue all you want but ultimately, the fate of your balls is the issue here. sure you can be impatient and start up another cycle but the only person you're hurting is yourself.

Skywalk

[Deacon]

I do not count it as time off - wait until pct is done and then start your off time. If you jump on to soon you are only hurting yourself as Skywalk said.

Sure its great to be on but long term gains come better with proper off time between cycles.

[TrapsBHuge]

Yes i count it as time off.
after ass use, 2 weeks hcg, then 2 weeks clomid, then 2 week clean, then back to the juice. That gives me 6 weeks "off".

[nj juice]

PCT is time on in my opinion...Wow, how impatient are you guys to start another cycle that you can't wait another 3 weeks? If thats the case stay on year round, lol.......