Doc. putting me on test cyp.(PLEASE HELP!)

[so_money]

OK, I am 20 years old to start off. I have a ton of questions. I will ask alot of these to my doctor on tuesday when i see him next.

Ok, I recently got a blood test done and have been informed my test levels were dangerously low. Like 160 i believe. It is due to my pain meds i have to take ( there is no alternative, but i will be getting off them this summer). So my doctor originally put me on Androgel to put my test levels back. The thing is if i am using that i might as well just do a cycle of injectable test. So i called him and he said it was an option of mine.

So I think i will do it, because i train 4 days a week and diet for bodybuilding, it sucks because alot of hard work in the gym didnt really do much because of my test levels. So I was thinking if i can get test cyp. how should i approact using it? Do i take it like 200mg every two weeks like a doc would do to raise it? Or should i take like 400mg-500mg per week like a bodybuilder? Also, I am very confused about what other supplements i need with it? Do i have a post cycle? Should i buy Nolva and Clomid?Also, could i use the androgel with the test cyp? I have a ton of questions i would like to ask someone. If anyone can help me out, please post or pm me. I would like to be able to get someone's aol messenger name and be able to shoot some questions at them. If anyone is willing to help just pm me. Thanks!

[bigjimcalhoun]

Like I told you on the other site where you posted this, you should really be posting in the section for Men's Health TRT/HRT. If you are really interested in learning, there 100s of posts over there, many with medical articles. Read the stickies, read the posts. They are there for a reason. I see that others at the other forum consider you suspicious.

If you do use 500 mg/week you will run out of your prescription 5 times faster and have no refill. During the couse of your first month when the first blood test is pulled, the doc see that instead of your testorsterone levels being 800 ng/DL, it will be 3500 ng/Dl. He will know immediately that you are not mature enough to be on this medication. Next, he will cut you off and you will be "shit out of luck" and you will never be able to put on any muscle.

You can build muscle on 100 mg/week. There are many of us here that do. We do not put on 15 lb of muscle in 10 weeks, but we can and do build muscle far better than we did in our hypogonadal state.

If you are really under a doctor's care, talk to him about what you need. If you start messing with stuff and he does not know and you do not tell him, he will falsely interpret lab results or depending on what you do, he may stop the testosterone altogether when you come in with breasts bigger than his wife's.

[TheBeat]

Sounds to me like you just want to run a cycle.

Your too young for a cycle some will say, but the thing that sticks out to me is that you say that your hard work in the gym didn't do much because of your test levels which are low because of your pain meds. How long have you been on these pain meds and if your doctor knows they are the cause (which I have never heard of) why hasn't he changed pain meds, there are many. You say that this summer they will stop, what's going on with your pain meds and why do you have a stop date? You also said that your doctor said that a cycle was an option which I assume that you meant that test cyp was an option. But with a date where the agonist of your test levels soon to stop, I can't see why he would do that. What is your medical condition that allows you to train hard in the gym, but have to take some serious pain meds that lower your test levels and cannot be changed??? Something about this rings false to me. But, I am willing to help with advice, just need to know more. Whether it's all true or not, what are your goals - both by summer and long term? do you think that you will do any more cycles?

[Bigkarch]

bro...first of all, get off those damn pain meds...it will f#$ you up....next, do exactly what your doc prescribes..nothing more nothing less...your health is number one..once your body gets back to normal and your body functions normally on its own..then we can talk cycles...until then...do what doc tells you to do...

[role model]

If possible get off the pain meds, I broke 2 vertebra in my back and the dr. put me on oxycontin , not only was I addicted after a month but my body weight dropped from 220 when I started down to 180 when I had to detox getting off the shit. That was 3 years ago, I am now up to over 250 in body weight (with help from riods) and feel great. Another thing that happens when you go off pain meds is, when your not getting the meds any more, your body gets hypersensitive to pain and every little joint and ache is 5 times as bad. It takes almost a whole year to get back to normal.

[so_money]

Thanks for all the advice. You are all pretty much right here. I am too young and too imature to be using steroids illegally. I never planned on using them until years down the road. But when i discovered my low low test levels it made me wonder alot about how the best way to use it would be for both bodybuilding and rebuilding natural test.

You have to understand this is all pretty confusing. He has agreed to put me on 200mg a week which from what i understand is still high. I was thinking of using 400mg a week so i could gain more muscle. I was thinking of using it just like a cycle and then taper and then quit followed by pct . I was thinking of using it for around 10 weeks. That would require me to get one more 10 ml vial which might be possible since my doc appointments are only once a month. I am confused of how this would effect my test levels as opposed to using 200mg a week for a much longer period of time. I like the idea of cycles followed with pct, but then again i am unexperienced with this.

The pain medication i am on is suboxone. A drug i was prescribed to get off using hydrocodone for a old back problem. The back problem is gone but i am still left with another pain med addiction. However, out of every pain medication this is supposedly the least addictive(although i disagree), i tried to stop once and it was so terrible i cant really describe it. However, i know it must be done, so i am preparing a slow taper and plan to quit the medication during the end of summer this year (best time for me to do it).

I appreciate all the advice. I am just trying to figure out what the best way about this would be. If i didnt do the 400mg a week and stayed on the 200mg a week, how long would i be on that dose (a rough estimate)? Thanks for all of your help. If anyone could pm with there aol instant messenger or something similar i would really appreciate it, it would help alot to be able to ask some questions.