Don't want gyno... - MESO-Rx

spound · #1 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 06:38 PM

Ok my cycle that i plan on starting within the next week or two is going to be:
wk 1-12: 500-625 Test E
Wk 1-12: 400-500 EQ
Wk: 1-4: 37.5mg Dbol ED
(haven't decided on exact dosages yet)

This is my question: If I take .25mg of Armidex ED to keep bloat down, and have clomid for PCT do you guys think i will need nolva to prevent gyno or should the arim. take care of it? If not, then could i just take 10mg of nolva ED during the cycle to prevent bloat or will this only help against gyno? I'm having trouble gettin this ? out for some reason, but i am basically asking if nolva would keep bloat down and/or if arimidex would be sufficient for preventing gyno. I'm not sure if im gyno prone...my last (2nd cycle) was test cyp. and deca and my nips got puffy but i had no pain or itchyness in them, and it went away after the cycle. It could have just been from water retention but not sure. ANy help is most definately appreciated.

jaysmithinwesson · #2 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 06:57 PM

a-dex will work. and you wont have to purchase nolv.

spound · #3 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysmithinwesson

a-dex will work. and you wont have to purchase nolv.

Should i take it throughout the whole cycle or like 4wks on 4 off then 4 back on? Also, will nolva prevent or reduce bloat at all?

einstein1905 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 07:47 PM

Adex is great, but it's better with nolva. If you are concerned with overall health, including lipid profile (cholesterol), then taking nolva with Adex is the way to go. Lowered estrogen levels are associated with lowered hepatic IGF-1 levels. Nolva is antiestrogenic at the mammary (good), but it's estrogenic in the liver (also good). Nolva can raise HDL (good) where as Adex can lower HDL (not good).
.25mg/day Ldex and 10mg/day of nolva is great

brady_hilltop · #5 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spound

I'm not sure if im gyno prone...my last (2nd cycle) was test cyp. and deca and my nips got puffy but i had no pain or itchyness in them, and it went away after the cycle. It could have just been from water retention but not sure. ANy help is most definately appreciated.

hey bro, i would follow einstein's advice on dosage; but my buddies doc told him that some people are genetically predisposed to gyno, b4 he ever took AAS, i think he was 14 or 15, he had a slight case of gyno, once he started taking aas (& because he knew this) he was religious about taking clomid & nolv. it helped, but he still ended up having to get it cut out.

but with his you could feel a lump & he said it could be painfull, like when he benched.

just passing on sum info

einstein1905 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 01:26 AM

A higher bf% will make one more predisposed to gyno as well. If that's an issue, you may want to do some cutting before the next cycle.

spound · #7 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by einstein1905

A higher bf% will make one more predisposed to gyno as well. If that's an issue, you may want to do some cutting before the next cycle.

I'm still leaning out just a tad but my BF isnt real high or anything. it's about 12-14