Easing pain after sus shots

[Tetax]

Hi all I am 220 lbs, 6'2" and been training for near 8 years, I am doing m first cycle of sus 250, and the pain days after injecting is stopping me from training some parts of my body.

Is there a way of easing the pain or preventing it ???

I heat the sus up in hot water to thin and give the area a quick mssage after. Do i need to massage longer ?

I inject my glute, should I inject another area for less pain, maybe 1cc in each thigh once a week or is that not going to absorb as much.

Please can someone help.

[prodigy06]

massage longer..... make sure you're injecting high on your glute like where your butt crack starts. You should also use your shoulders and http://www.steroidsource.net/images/injection8.jpg <--- here too.
Make sure you're injecting slow, using the right size needle. If that still doesn't help buy some oil to cut it with.

[elgaringo]

yeah like prodigy says massage longer. ( I go in my glutes too only place I feel comfortable) I use sust and have done on several occasions. there has been trail and error on what gives me the least pain and if I inject in the morning before I go to work and massage the area at every opportunity I have very little pain the next day and Im free to train doin squats or whatever!

[role model]

Originally Posted by Tetax

Is there a way of easing the pain or preventing it ???

Please can someone help.

It is the "Brand" you purchased.

I still haven't figured out why but certain companies/people I buy from I never have a problem.
Other companies/people I buy from I always have a problem.

In fact I threw some away I bought from Alin because as far as I'm concerned it was nothing but "infection in a bottle." My buddy got some also from Alin and same exact problem. It was so painful and swelled you could see the swelling threw baggy jeans. It felt as if I was hit with a baseball bat it was that bad.

The only thing I can suggest doing is as prodogy said and cut it with other oil.
Or take a 1/2 cc at a time per inject site.
Good luck.

[andysutils]

sounds like you gotta UG grade product there which is what it mostly happens with. a lot of UG labs are dirty aswell so its probably not that sterile.

i stick to HG products, i just got some pakistan sust organon and its totally painless i hear from everyone thats used it.

Alinshop role? oh dear, stay away from that looser bro.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by Tetax

Hi all I am 220 lbs, 6'2" and been training for near 8 years, I am doing m first cycle of sus 250, and the pain days after injecting is stopping me from training some parts of my body.

Is there a way of easing the pain or preventing it ???

I heat the sus up in hot water to thin and give the area a quick mssage after. Do i need to massage longer ?

I inject my glute, should I inject another area for less pain, maybe 1cc in each thigh once a week or is that not going to absorb as much.

Please can someone help.

Cut it with more oil like everyone said..stick to the glutes..that is the best spot to avoid more pain.If you inject into your shoulder you will really be hating life.

[Fraggle]

Read this post...

How to prevent injection pain.

Fraggle

[mands]

Great post Fraggle.

mands

[advanced-stealth]

Its really helpful with the pain to cut it as suggested.

Good post Fraggle.

[bigdeadweight]

tbh with sust, to start with it crippled me, but i got used to it so that later on in the cycle the shots hardly hurt at all. and rotate your sites, dont keep pushing in the same two places.

[BBC3]

Dont you guys mean cut it with more BA????? I have always found that the amount of pain ensuing is directly related to too much oil, and the solution not being "thin" enough. Therefore, the oil just goes in and creates a lump that takes 3-7 days to disperse. I have also found that you know your oil is too thick when it actually "chases" the needle out. If you have oil on the skin area around the pin hole, this is definitely the issue. I would be suprised if even 50% stayed in the muscle. I had to consciously "plug the hole and massage the hell out of it! I was recently prescribed some Sandoz test cyp 200. It is completely painless and TOTALLy disperses at injection. In retrospect, out of (3) brands that I tried, (1) pharma, (1) ugl , and (1) Fitness pharmaceuticals. The Fuzion (Fitness Pharma) was exactly the same as current Sandoz, The ugl was our friend BG and SH!T, Pain, Crap in a vial, and the BM Parma (India) was pretty painless, but very good. They used some wierd type of Eastern oil, I dont remember the name. It knotted a little bit. Anyway, I kinda though diluting with BA would be the solution for this issue. I have heard people say that BA causes pain, but this is definitely not true. The Fuzion was 5%. You could feel the "sting" of the alcohol at the time of injection but that is it. I have found that if you can feel the alcohol sting a bit, then you can be sure there will be no pain after that moment?? I could be wrong as I am not experienced with Sus. Are there actual steroid ingredients out there that hurt?? Thoughts??

[mands]

Please tell me you are kidding. BA is the most common issue with injection pain period. The higher the BA the higher amount of pain. These labs use BA to keep these products sterile and to get the outrageous amounts of powder dissolved in 1 little cc of oil. Take for instance Denkall Test400, that would leave a welt that was red and warm to the touch for 3 days. the alcohol is the problem. The thinner the oil the more likely the manufacture has added a ton of BA. On a side note this is what sometimes will cause flu like symptoms after you inject. Hope this clears something up.

mands

[Fraggle]

If you want to prevent the oil from seeping out of the injection site you can try two possible methods.

1) Z-Track: pull the skin at the injection site to the side before inserting the needle, when you are done and withdraw the needle you release the skin and it moves back into place 'breaking' the return path, essentially forming a Z from the needles path.

2) Air-Lock: keep a small bubble of air (around ~0.1 - 0.2ml) in the syringe and insert the needle vertically. The oil is then followed into the muscle by the small air bubble, acting to lock the oil in place as a depot within the muscle. This is the method I use. I have only once experienced any seepage, and it was no more then ~0.1ml. I also very rarely get any blood from the injection site. This works for me even when injecting large quantities of oil ~3ml daily.

Finally, BA is almost always the culprit with UGL related pain. The UGL's add far too much, particularly when the mg/ml is high as in the T400 mentioned by mands. BA actually destroys muscle tissue and causes significant localised pain and swelling. If the ester is short this becomes even more problematic as the solubility of short esters is very limited. For acetate and propionate I would never use doses above 100mg/ml and for longer esters limit it to 200mg/ml.

The thickness of the oil has more to do with the choice of oils. I find sesame to be quite thick, whereas cottonseed tends to be thin, although this can surely differ as well....

Just because we're lifters and believe ourselves to be strong and determined doesn't mean we should be ignorant and accept painful injections. The UGL's are partially at fault because they are selling into a captive market due to the illegal nature of steroid use in most countries. They don't really have to face actual competitive market pressures. But so are the users. Vote with your dollars, choose products that are manufactured well. Don't put up with garbage. Remember, we're injecting this stuff into our bodies!

Fraggle

[dennis]

Something a nurse showed me one time to help from oil coming out after you extract needle was after you plunge gear into yourself,leave needle in,thunp the area with your finger several times and then remove needle,have alcohol pad waiting,when needle comes out immediatly apply pressure..you will lose no gear this way.

[advanced-stealth]

Absolutely right! BA is the major cause of pain.

Originally Posted by mands

Please tell me you are kidding. BA is the most common issue with injection pain period. The higher the BA the higher amount of pain. These labs use BA to keep these products sterile and to get the outrageous amounts of powder dissolved in 1 little cc of oil. Take for instance Denkall Test400, that would leave a welt that was red and warm to the touch for 3 days. the alcohol is the problem. The thinner the oil the more likely the manufacture has added a ton of BA. On a side note this is what sometimes will cause flu like symptoms after you inject. Hope this clears something up.

mands