Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on Eq within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; I wanted to get peopled opinion on how best to run EQ during a 12wk Test cycle.
This is my ...
Since it's your first cycle, you don't really have to go all fancy. How ever you run it I'm sure you will be pleased with the results as long as you train hard, eat like a mad man and get plenty of rest.
I would just stop the EQ at week 12, the Test at week 13 and then start PCT at week 15.
I wanted to get peopled opinion on how best to run EQ during a 12wk Test cycle.
This is my firs cycle. 6ft, 190llbs, 15% BF Age 26yr
I asked this (and other questions) in a differnent thread but am still unclear of how best to go.
Plan is Test E 500mg/wk for 12wks.
I undestand EQ needs to be stopped before the Test i.e week 11 but at the same time I understand EQ is best used for longer cycles.
Should I:
1) Run 500mg/wk for 11wks
2) Front load for 2weeks at 1000mg/wk
3) Start the EQ 1 or 2 weeks before the Test?
What is the best?
Cheers
This should be a great combo for a first cycle..should give slow steady lean gains and strength too..and most gains should be keepable with well planned pct.
weeks 1-2 test enth 750 mgs
weeks 1-2 eq 750 mgs
week 2-12 test enth 500 mgs
weeks 2-12 eq 500 mgs
can you get down to 12% body fat before you start this cycle?
what does your diet look like ?
how much weight do you plan to gain ?
What is ready for pct ?
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HDH and Dennis thanks very much for your responces.
In the past when I have asked about EQ there does not seem to be a lot of responces. Is this because it is not a widley used/understand steroid?
I plan on gaining around 20llbs on this cycle but as your rightly pointed out I am looknig for lean, keepable gains with good strenght increase for my rugby. Have Adex on hand incase the bloat gets a little heavy.
HCG
Will be run wks 4-12 at 500IU EW. (day after test/eq shot)
Then for 10 days, 1 day after last shot of test at 500IU ED - am i best to use 20mg of Nolvadex during the administration of HCG???
PCT
1day after last shot of HCG
Clomid
Day 1 150mg
Days 2-14 100mg ED
Days 15-28 50mg ED
Nolva
50/40/30/20/10
I am in the process of lowing BF now and should be able to get down to atleast 12%. All I need to do is cut out the beer if I am honest!
Diet is in check and will be aiming for 4000cal when on. Although one question I have is regarding suporting suplements for when cycling like vitamins etc. What do your recommend on this front??
HDH and Dennis thanks very much for your responces.
In the past when I have asked about EQ there does not seem to be a lot of responces. Is this because it is not a widley used/understand steroid?
I plan on gaining around 20llbs on this cycle but as your rightly pointed out I am looknig for lean, keepable gains with good strenght increase for my rugby. Have Adex on hand incase the bloat gets a little heavy.
HCG
Will be run wks 4-12 at 500IU EW. (day after test/eq shot)
Then for 10 days, 1 day after last shot of test at 500IU ED - am i best to use 20mg of Nolvadex during the administration of HCG???
PCT
1day after last shot of HCG
Clomid
Day 1 150mg
Days 2-14 100mg ED
Days 15-28 50mg ED
Nolva
50/40/30/20/10
I am in the process of lowing BF now and should be able to get down to atleast 12%. All I need to do is cut out the beer if I am honest!
Diet is in check and will be aiming for 4000cal when on. Although one question I have is regarding suporting suplements for when cycling like vitamins etc. What do your recommend on this front??
You should be able to do lean and keep able with this cycle, proper pct will be a big factor..you're seems well planned. 10mg of Nolva would be a better option should you need while using the HCG - DOUBTFUL. I would reconsider that lengthy use of Clomid though. Maybe just the first week at 150 along with the Nolva, then just continue the Nolva. On cycle Adex will be good at keeping you lean and your E in check, won't hinder your gains. Start at .25eod and work up to .5ed should you need it. You could also use Nolva at 10mg ed.. I would wait though, see if you need it before you run it. But do have it on hand in case you do need it.
Any multi vitamin geared for athletes is good. I alternate with animal pack and orange triad, efa's, bcaa/eaa, creatine..I take a few more things like zma, cla, l-carnitine, liver tabs (aminos), I won't say you need em but I hate wasting my money...and I still buy em every other month..no need to mention protein powder (whey isolate, milk protein isolate, egg) is a staple of my diet.
Make sure you hit your macros, high protein, high carb, moderate fat..sleep plenty..I assume with your sport you will make lean progress.
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You'll love that for a first cycle. Looks like you really did your homework. I like to see guys doing a cycle for the first time and doing it responsibly. You'll love this cycle I'm sure. Good luck man let us know how it goes.
I posted a thread about the same cycle and a lot of good info was shared.. It was going to be my first cycle originally, I'm pretty sure I have an .xls with the whole 12 or 14 week cycle + pct laid out. Let me know and I'll dig it up..
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Thanks for all the advice and comments guys. Cant tell you how much I apprecaite it as am f$$$ing excited about starting now I know I am nearly there.
If I front load wiith Test and EQ at 750mg/wk am I best to divide this into x2 shots a week?
LifeSize, would like to look at the speadsheet if you can send that to be. How is best to do that?
Been delayed with start date as some twat knocked my tooth out over the weekend for chatting to his misses. Shorted now but looking forward to meeting him in 12 wks time!
Eq 
You'll love this cycle I'm sure. Good luck man let us know how it goes.
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