Ethyl Oleate and the difference in bases

[Stormbringer]

Can anyone explain to me the different bases used in steroids, and if Ethyl Oleate is so good and painless, why would you use anything else? Is this a new thing? What are some of you alls experience with this?

[novicebb]

From what I understand, Ethyl Oleate is more expensive then say Cottonseed oil, Grapeseed oil or others. Plus I think some don't know how to utilize it but I have to admit I don't know much abou Ethyl Oleate but I am researching right now so I can know what the hell I am talking about.

[Stormbringer]

Novice BB, I am researching myself but did not have much luck. Let me know what you find out.

[asapnutrition1]

Ethyl Oleate is a carrier. It is great for short esters like Acetate, Propionate and Phenylpropionate for increasing concentrations of these esters without crashing.
Many people feel that Ethyl Oleate creates painless injections while others don't feel the same. I only would suggest Ethyl Oleate for short esters for reducing pain and increasing concentration.

You can use a 50/50 concentration of Ethyl Oleate and oil such as Cottonseed or Grapeseed to increase concentration of NPP to 200mg/ml without crashing

Some people feel that isn't all that it is cracked up to be as many long ester formula's seem to crash. Also the other con is the cost of Ethyl Oleate.

For many the pain is reduced because Ethyl Oleate is thinner and has lower viscosity then say grapeseed or cottonseed oil.

Personally I don't use Ethyl Oleate currently as I don't see many benefits over cottonseed oil or grapeseed oil.

you can learn a little bit on steroidology.com

[asapnutrition1]

Formula for the following if you are interested in making your own:

2%BA
20%BB
35%EO
the rest Oil

or

Test prop, 200mg/ml, 3%BA, 20%BB, the rest EO, painless, for me, and most others.

The same formula can be used with tren ac, masteron, or a 200mg combo of any of the above, all pain free

[HDH]

Personally, I like it. There are some that don't. It is pretty new to a lot of people. It can make 4, 5 and 600mg Test painless. I'm using a 200mg/ml Prop right now and it's great. I also like 600mg/ml Deca, 500mg/ml Tren E and 200mg/ml Tren Ace........the list goes on. I have seen some feedback that there are a few that don't like it. I like the high mg/ml injectables so I don't inject as much oil.

HDH

[Stormbringer]

I did find some info on it pertaining to it not interacting well with rubber (as in a vial top). Can cause deteriation. Anyone know about this?

[HDH]

Originally Posted by Stormbringer

I did find some info on it pertaining to it not interacting well with rubber (as in a vial top). Can cause deteriation. Anyone know about this?

I've heard something about it but I know guys that preload syringes with it and don't have problems. I would think if that really was the case, it just wouldn't be used.

HDH

[Stormbringer]

Thanks for the info. If I find more info, I will post up.

[375Ranger]

I like it too. I am on the same boat with HDH. Since my source has my favorite gear in high doses, I enjoy injecting less oil. With my Prop, 200mg/ml I have absolutely NO pain. I did home brew my own Tren Ace, but accidentally used 3 times as much BA as the formula called for...needles to say those injections hurt! If I was homebrewing, I would use EO over cottonseed or grapeseed. Its worth the little extra cost IMO. Good luck