first cycle

[KENJ]

This is my first cycle and I'm looking to make decent gains (15-20 lbs) I already weigh about 185 and im 5'11''. I'd like not to have to take anti-e's or clomid or anything post cycle (money issue). Also I'd still like to be able to have sex during the cycle (I read deca by itself can have that effect). Any recommendations on what I could stack?

[EPOWER]

I would go with test enth, run it at a low dose since its your first cycle 250mg every 5 days is what I ran. You need to do PCT to get your own nautral test levels back to where they should be , and to keep the gains. If you do not your going to run into problems and end up losing all the gains you make. 15-20lbs could come with a low dose of test on your first cycle. Try running it for 10weeks. Do some reserch on here and you will find some good cheap nolva.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/stero...le-faq-26.html

[Reinheart]

There's no such a thing as a cycle without pct. Why do it then anyway? I would seriously suggest you reconsider your thoughts about cycling and save some money. Nolvadex is very very cheap and you can get it from a drugstore without having a prescription.

[Bosnian_Brawler]

If you can't afford to do it right, than don't do it at all.....Nolva is really not that expensive, but you can't get it in drugstore without perscription (USA). Just try to buy it from the same place you are getting your gear from.

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by Bosnian_Brawler

If you can't afford to do it right, than don't do it at all.....Nolva is really not that expensive, but you can't get it in drugstore without perscription (USA). Just try to buy it from the same place you are getting your gear from.

I can usually get it at drugstores (Greece), that's why i said it. Different countries! Sorry bro!

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

I can usually get it at drugstores (Greece), that's why i said it. Different countries! Sorry bro!

What else can you get over the counter there? I wish the USA was like that! It would be nice also to go to the drug store and pick up 20ml of test lol!!!

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by KENJ

This is my first cycle and I'm looking to make decent gains (15-20 lbs) I already weigh about 185 and im 5'11''. I'd like not to have to take anti-e's or clomid or anything post cycle (money issue). Also I'd still like to be able to have sex during the cycle (I read deca by itself can have that effect). Any recommendations on what I could stack?

This is really funny. It's like you just want the good, with none of the negative.

Personally, I'd like it if it were just sunny and 85 degrees everyday... I don't like the rain. So I want every day to be sunny and warm with no rain.

Oops, I guess the real world doesn't work that way and steroids are no exception. These are powerful drugs and like all powerful drugs, they have side effects. Either accept that or don't take them.

It's well documented in both the real world and the scientific studies that the positive effects of steroids are dose dependent. So if you're taking them to add muscle, the more you take, the more muscle you will gain. At least up to a point. Likewise, the more you take, the more negative side effects you will experience as well.

You need to find a happy medium. Moderate gains and moderate side effects. Either accept that or you're just wasting everyone's time. From there, you can either live with the moderate side effects... bad choice... or spend a little money to follow the protocols developed to minimize the negative while still enjoying the benefits of the positive.

Good luck,
MaxRep

[texasman0206]

Originally Posted by KENJ

This is my first cycle and I'm looking to make decent gains (15-20 lbs) I already weigh about 185 and im 5'11''. I'd like not to have to take anti-e's or clomid or anything post cycle (money issue). Also I'd still like to be able to have sex during the cycle (I read deca by itself can have that effect). Any recommendations on what I could stack?

Bro what are you thinking.

[KENJ]

well actually i live in miami, so it basically is sunny everyday and somewhere in the neighborhood of 85 degrees, except on the occasional of a massive hurricane.

anyways, ok i see that PCT is necessary, i just didnt realize how so before. on that note, how much nolva do i take and when should i start it?

and real quick, test ent alone is a good place to start? about 250 mg/wk?

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by KENJ

well actually i live in miami, so it basically is sunny everyday and somewhere in the neighborhood of 85 degrees, except on the occasional of a massive hurricane.

anyways, ok i see that PCT is necessary, i just didnt realize how so before. on that note, how much nolva do i take and when should i start it?

and real quick, test ent alone is a good place to start? about 250 mg/wk?

Look at the link I posted on this thread about first cycle.
I used test e by it self at 250mg every 5 days and honestly i got great results that i was very happy with, You could even do it every 3 days if you want. You need to use the nolva thou have it before you start your cycle in case you get gyno even thou its a lite dose at 250mg that chance is there you dont know who your body is going to react to the test everyone is differrent. You should start by reading the link for first cycle! good luck

[dennis]

Get 6000 mls of sustanon.use 500 mgs each week for 12 weeks taken 2 x per week say monday and thursday.eat and train properly.Roughly 19-21 days after last shot of sust use 40 mgs of nolva for first 3 days then taper back to 20 mgs nolva for the next 4-5 weeks depending on age and other factors..continue to lift and eat properly through this period as well.I would keep some adex and or extra nolva on hand during cycle for gyno signs.And i would use HCG at 500 ius ew for entire cycle. Wish i had a 10 ml vial of tren for every one of these questions we have answered in the past year !

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by dennis

Get 6000 mls of sustanon.use 500 mgs each week for 12 weeks taken 2 x per week say monday and thursday.eat and train properly.Roughly 19-21 days after last shot of sust use 40 mgs of nolva for first 3 days then taper back to 20 mgs nolva for the next 4-5 weeks depending on age and other factors..continue to lift and eat properly through this period as well.I would keep some adex and or extra nolva on hand during cycle for gyno signs.And i would use HCG at 500 ius ew for entire cycle. Wish i had a 10 ml vial of tren for every one of these questions we have answered in the past year !

LOL dennis you would OD on tren!!! and still have enough to give every member on meso a 10ml vial!

[KENJ]

that link you put up was real helpful. in light of that, im gonna do a cycle of sustanon 250 @ 250 mg. every 5 days. then im gonna hit up the nolva @ 20 md/day for a couple weeks. (is 1-2 weeks enough?).

[dennis]

Originally Posted by KENJ

that link you put up was real helpful. in light of that, im gonna do a cycle of sustanon 250 @ 250 mg. every 5 days. then im gonna hit up the nolva @ 20 md/day for a couple weeks. (is 1-2 weeks enough?).

OMG !

[Mr Wiggly]

Hang on, step back Dennis, I got this. http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/stero...le-faq-26.html