First cycle but all the gear hasn't arrived...should I start anyway?

[kh24]

Today I recieved 16 amps of organon sustanon and 500 (way more than I need) blue heart dbol from maiikal81. I ordered 16 deca yellow tops from sunfish but I dont think that motherf*cker is gonna come through. My question is would it be ok to start taking the test and dbol while I wait for my deca to come on from another supplier. I estimate that it will be in in a week or two at the most. Or should I just wait for everything? Thanks

[cvguy]

personally, i'm a big believer in getting everything all lined up all nice and neat before starting. all the pinz, the PCT, anti-e's, etc. Would suck to screw up a cycle and not maximize all that hard earned $$$. Or worse, grow tits. Or zits.

[stevemac]

I agree, it's a risk I dont take. get all your shit together then start

[4545]

Bro i think you will see great results on the sus and dbol alone. Just use them for the first cycle and save your money for the next one. My first cycle consisted of 500mg sus per week for 10 weeks with 25mg Dbol ED for 5 weeks and i put on 30 pounds. Goodluck!

[kh24]

I got all the pinz ready and the anti e's would be on order with the deca. I could probably get it by the weekend if I hurried. Im really anxious to get started and my one friend who has juiced for a while told me to just start..in fact he told me I dont need the deca if I dont want to spend the cash but Im not so sure I agree with that at all and would want to have the deca too.

What I'm gonna do is 500mg sus a week 400mg deca a week and 20mg dbol a day for the first week then followed by 40mg a day for the next 4 weeks then back to 20mg.

[ENDRO]

Originally Posted by kh24

I got all the pinz ready and the anti e's would be on order with the deca. I could probably get it by the weekend if I hurried. Im really anxious to get started and my one friend who has juiced for a while told me to just start..in fact he told me I dont need the deca if I dont want to spend the cash but Im not so sure I agree with that at all and would want to have the deca too.

What I'm gonna do is 500mg sus a week 400mg deca a week and 20mg dbol a day for the first week then followed by 40mg a day for the next 4 weeks then back to 20mg.

First rule bro is to never,never,never start a cycle intill you have all your gear including anti-E. Do you have any idea how many posts that are out there from good bros that have gyno because they started a cycle with out all the gear!!!!!!

[joe shmoe]

if diet, training and rest are all in order, you'll do more than fine on 500mg/wk of sust and the d-bols. however, pyramiding of the d-bols is useless! instead of doing what you're planning with the d-bols for 6 weeks, run it @ 40mg/ED for 5 weeks. what the hell is the point of going up and then back down???

you dont need the deca. you could just run the sust. if you want to run the deca too, then wait for it. dont start without it. and definately dont start anything without your anti-e's and recovery drugs already stashed in your closet.

what the hell is the hurry? i know you want to start, but a couple of extra days wont make a huge difference. none at all in fact.

wait for your anti-e's before starting. you can thank us later...like when you dont have to buy a bra.

have a nice day

[HHH]

Originally Posted by joe shmoe

if diet, training and rest are all in order, you'll do more than fine on 500mg/wk of sust and the d-bols. however, pyramiding of the d-bols is useless! instead of doing what you're planning with the d-bols for 6 weeks, run it @ 40mg/ED for 5 weeks. what the hell is the point of going up and then back down???

you dont need the deca. you could just run the sust. if you want to run the deca too, then wait for it. dont start without it. and definately dont start anything without your anti-e's and recovery drugs already stashed in your closet.

what the hell is the hurry? i know you want to start, but a couple of extra days wont make a huge difference. none at all in fact.

wait for your anti-e's before starting. you can thank us later...like when you dont have to buy a bra.

have a nice day

Well said

HHH

[kh24]

Originally Posted by joe shmoe

if diet, training and rest are all in order, you'll do more than fine on 500mg/wk of sust and the d-bols. however, pyramiding of the d-bols is useless! instead of doing what you're planning with the d-bols for 6 weeks, run it @ 40mg/ED for 5 weeks. what the hell is the point of going up and then back down???

you dont need the deca. you could just run the sust. if you want to run the deca too, then wait for it. dont start without it. and definately dont start anything without your anti-e's and recovery drugs already stashed in your closet.

what the hell is the hurry? i know you want to start, but a couple of extra days wont make a huge difference. none at all in fact.

wait for your anti-e's before starting. you can thank us later...like when you dont have to buy a bra.

have a nice day

My friend told me to pyramid the dbol...i thought it was strange too. How much more benificial would the deca be. This is going to be a bulking cycle and would like to add at least 10lbs of lean muscle so Im guessing I would have to gain about or more then 20lbs over all at first. I have a good diet with at least 4k calories a day and over 400 grams of protien and carbs with about 30-50 grams of fat a day. My stats are im 5'10 175lbs and 18% body fat. My body fat was more around 12-14% when I was 165 but since I started eating more to gain weight it shot up a little. Also I wasnt on as strict of a diet as I am on now. Another thing is its very hard for me to gain weight or size. All my years of lifting have resulted in a leaner stronger me but not really a much bigger me.

Oh and I dont want to grow boobies lol...thats why I posted here first. thanks guys

[Geno99262]

The only thing I like about Deca is helps on the pain in my joints a little but hate the bloat!!!!

[joe shmoe]

well you'll be doing the typical newbie cycle...which is a very good and simple cycle. if gaining is that difficult for you, then wait for the deca. but just be aware that deca will add alot of water weight and bloat. sure you'll grow muscle from it too, but bloat and water go hand in hand with deca. if you wanted leaner muscle, i would have suggested EQ instead of deca...less bloat and all. but the deca is fine.

again, dont pyramid the d-bols. same dose for 5 weeks is the way to go. nothing against your friend, but forget it.

good choice on wanting to grow your own boobies .

have a nice day

[ENDRO]

Originally Posted by kh24

My friend told me to pyramid the dbol...i thought it was strange too. How much more benificial would the deca be. This is going to be a bulking cycle and would like to add at least 10lbs of lean muscle so Im guessing I would have to gain about or more then 20lbs over all at first. I have a good diet with at least 4k calories a day and over 400 grams of protien and carbs with about 30-50 grams of fat a day. My stats are im 5'10 175lbs and 18% body fat. My body fat was more around 12-14% when I was 165 but since I started eating more to gain weight it shot up a little. Also I wasnt on as strict of a diet as I am on now. Another thing is its very hard for me to gain weight or size. All my years of lifting have resulted in a leaner stronger me but not really a much bigger me.

Oh and I dont want to grow boobies lol...thats why I posted here first. thanks guys

The cycle is fine once you get all your gear, but beware dbol causes severe lower back pain and you get very little gains from the 4th week to the 5th week.
instead of pyramiding it I would just split the dose up through out the day.

[Silverback]

Wait on it all, its only a week or two, right? Because you never know when it will arrive...

You will grow on the sustanon and dbol---but personally I like deca better than dbol--no back pain, fewer nose bleeds, and better quality gains---atleast for me

[crewboss]

Originally Posted by kh24

I got all the pinz ready and the anti e's would be on order with the deca. I could probably get it by the weekend if I hurried. Im really anxious to get started and my one friend who has juiced for a while told me to just start..in fact he told me I dont need the deca if I dont want to spend the cash but Im not so sure I agree with that at all and would want to have the deca too.

What I'm gonna do is 500mg sus a week 400mg deca a week and 20mg dbol a day for the first week then followed by 40mg a day for the next 4 weeks then back to 20mg.

if it was something you could throw in later, that's one thing. but don't start ANYTHING w/ out your anti-e's bro, i can't count how many times i've seen someone freak out because their anti-e's were still a couple weeks out and they're nips are burning. ancillaries are the last thing that can wait till later, gotta have em IMO.

[patsfan]

Originally Posted by kh24

I got all the pinz ready and the anti e's would be on order with the deca. I could probably get it by the weekend if I hurried. Im really anxious to get started and my one friend who has juiced for a while told me to just start..in fact he told me I dont need the deca if I dont want to spend the cash but Im not so sure I agree with that at all and would want to have the deca too.

What I'm gonna do is 500mg sus a week 400mg deca a week and 20mg dbol a day for the first week then followed by 40mg a day for the next 4 weeks then back to 20mg.

The sust and dblol are ALL YOU NEED hoewever run the sust eod to keep your levels up. Now weather thats 250 eod for 750 a week or 3/4 of a CC EOD for 475 a week. The prop works best EOD.

If you have the sust and your anti e's now then go for it. Save the Deca for your next cycle.

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