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Old 01-17-2005, 12:28 PM
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Week 1

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
300mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
300mg of Equipose

Day 1-7 Dbol 25mg ED divide 3 times daily


Week 2

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 1-7 Dbol 25mg ED divide 3 times daily


Week 3

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 1-7 Dbol 25mg ED divide 3 times daily


Week 4

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 1-7 Dbol 25mg ED divide 3 times daily


Week 5

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose


Week 6

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose


Week 7

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose


Week 8

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose


Week 9

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate
200mg of Equipose


Week 10

Day 1- 250mg of Test Enanthate

Day 5- 250mg of Test Enanthate


Week 11

Day 1- 300mg of Clomid

Day 2-7- 100mg of Clomid


Week 12

Day 1-4- 100mg Clomid

Day 5-7- 50mg Clomid


Week 13

Day 1-7- 50mg Clomid


Week 1-12

Everyday - 10mg of Nolvadex
Im 5'10 170pounds 7Percent body fat
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Too much gear for a first cycle i would just run 500mg of test enanthate for 10weeks. Keep front loading and all that for when you are at a more advanced level its only your first cycle you will grow off anything
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Too much gear for a first cycle i would just run 500mg of test enanthate for 10weeks. Keep front loading and all that for when you are at a more advanced level its only your first cycle you will grow off anything
I agree. Diet is key here, though...

Test Enanthate at 500mg a week shot twice a week.
.25mg Arimidex ED
10mg Nolva ED (optional)

PCT

With good training, sleep, and eating habits I put on 25 pounds my first cycle and kept 18 of that.

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That is definitly not too much gear for a first cycle. In my opinion anyway. I remember my first cycle was run very succussfully with little sides dbol, test, and deca. Eq, test, and dbol is even milder. 500mgs test/w 400mgs eq/w and dbol: This is a very good first cycle. It really all depends on how ready you are to do it. What body fat% are you? How long have you been lifting regularly? The schedule you have lined up is not bad and for a newbie you have done some good research and you even have your PCT lined up. Split the shots on a monday/thursday scheme or something similar. With the two injectables you are using you actually don't need to inject more than once a week but 4 ccs in one day may seem like a lot for you. Good luck. This is a great first cycle. You should be excited.
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I dont agree my first cycle was 200mg of deca a week aqnd 20mg of dbol a day and gained 17 pounds. You are advising over a 1000mgs of gear total a week if this is a first cycle where the hell do you go after this do you use 2000mg total by the time you are on your 4th cycle.
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Add some HCG into the mix and you've got a good cycle.

j martini, What you're suggesting is that a person builds up a tolerance to aas. This is not the case. The only reason for any increase would be as he approaches and surpasses his body's genetic limit to put on muscle mass.


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True but it is in peoples nature to keep increasing dose try finding someone who wont increase the dose for their second cyxcle a little even if they got great results from their first.

What im trying to say is that he doesnt need to use that much when he can make just as good gains of half that much if you eat and train correctly you will grow off just about anything on your first cycle.

Most people seem to just use the same answer you need to use 500mg of test a week and 400mg of Eq for it to be effective this does not apply to a first time user
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I think your cycle looks fine. It's simple and well planned. I would add some HCG at the end though. In regards to the dosage, I did 700mg/wk of suspension my first cycle and am now on my 4th and am running 525/wk prop with .5adex EOD and am getting good gains. Not nearly as dramatic as the first, but good, all the same; and with no bloat. You should see some nice results out of your cycle. Keep us posted.

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Thanks for info all my stats are 5'10 158pounds 7percent body fat been lifting for about 2 years max bench is 240 I go to gym 6 days a week cardio 4 days a week lift to failure on every workout
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What are your goals? Are you trying to cut-up or get huge? You're already pretty lean and probably cut, so are you trying to just add some good-quality mass, or are you trying to get as big as possible?

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True but it is in peoples nature to keep increasing dose try finding someone who wont increase the dose for their second cyxcle a little even if they got great results from their first.

What im trying to say is that he doesnt need to use that much when he can make just as good gains of half that much if you eat and train correctly you will grow off just about anything on your first cycle.

Most people seem to just use the same answer you need to use 500mg of test a week and 400mg of Eq for it to be effective this does not apply to a first time user
I, for one, used less aas on my second cycle than my first. As the lad has now revealed, he needs to learn more of the basics of BBing. Rest and recovery, diet, varying workouts.

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I agree... my first cycle was incredibly light 300mg Sust + 200mg EQ every week and I put on 14 pounds. The big BUT here is that I had already honed my workout and was really pushing some weight around. ONLY DO GEAR WHEN NATURAL AIN'T WORKIN!
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thanks again all for the info helped me alot
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My first cycle was Test, EQ and Deca. Look at the First Cycle thread in the stickys
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i think that you have a pretty decent cycle planned out. you might want to run the eq at 300-400mg the whole time. when i took 200mg ew it didn't do a whole lot. from what i understand you really need to take at least 400mg eq to get significant results. i like deca better which will give you results at 200mg. and for your pct you might want to wait an extra week before starting the clomid the test is still going to be active for two weeks after your last dose. good luck with that.
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