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Default Re: first cycle, dbol, test, deca

no matter what you do you should drop the deca on this first run-you just wont need it

lets say you get gyno while running the deca and test what are you going to do? how will you know which one is causing the problem? you wont-and if you take nolva and its the deca you will be sorry.

just run dbol test-you will still gain the same with or without the deca.

1-4 dbol 30-40mg ED
1-15 test 500mg a week-or shit go up to 750-better than running deca
14-17 dbol
18-21 pct clomid 50mg ED

thats it nice and simple-and if you eat enough you will get huge. you could easily put on 25lbs with this cycle-but what do i know
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cycle is all wrong...not to flame, but try 400mg of test for 10 or 12 weeks and 30 mg of dbol for 4 or 5 weeks..however I think 30 lbs is a bit unrealistic
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cycle is all wrong...not to flame, but try 400mg of test for 10 or 12 weeks and 30 mg of dbol for 4 or 5 weeks..however I think 30 lbs is a bit unrealistic
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if so please explain-i am always up for learning
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Default Re: first cycle, dbol, test, deca

ok so if drop the deca or not? what test should be the best?

i want to do the cycle for 12 weeks, because ive heard you should run deca or test for not less than 10 and no more than 12 right? can i add winstrol or some cutting drug at the end of the cycle? if i do when i should run the pct?
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ok so if drop the deca or not? what test should be the best?

i want to do the cycle for 12 weeks, because ive heard you should run deca or test for not less than 10 and no more than 12 right? can i add winstrol or some cutting drug at the end of the cycle? if i do when i should run the pct?
drop the deca-you know nothing about prolactin and progesterone issues you may encounter.

with test your estrogen will be through the roof-it will be a task monitoring this for your first time-also for future reference you will know what compound tends to give what side effects.

if you do both this time you will not know if you are gyno prone-to the test(estro) deca(prolactin)

running nolva when you have prolactin issues is a big no-no. it will make the sides worse.

use either testosterone enanthate-or testosterone cypionate.

you could run it longer than 12 weeks if you want-although this will be enough time to see some great gains.

either one of these will take 4-6 weeks to kick in-so if you run the dbol at the beginning-this will allow you to make some gains while waiting for the test to kick in.

start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection.

winstrol is really bad on the joints-i do not recommend it unless your running EQ or DECA with it-and we already talked about that so its out the window.

Dbol is the all american drug-the US invented it when the Russians were kicking our ass in the olympics. it is fast acting and produces results rapidly.

you should get an Aromatose inhibitor to combat elevated levels of estrogen.

i prefer Aromasin-you should run this the entire cycle-it help to reduce bloat and moon face-do not run NOLVA on cycle-unless you get gyno-which you problably wont cause your smart enough to run an AI the whole way through. nolva can inhibit gains Aromasin will not.

SERM'S and AI's are easy to obtain through research companys-legally.
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peanut butter! I like your advice on the cycle I was wondering if you would have a good substitute for the deca.. Im a little leary of the deca myself only because of so much I heard about it but I never lose site that there only opinions and could have either got crap or just cycled wrong. Having said that I was just wondering what your thoughts were. Have you heard of any good sites for the d-bol...etc
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