First Cycle EQ Only?

[JiHbE]

Hey fellas,

After 5 years of hard training and eating my ass off I'm starting to think about taking something to gain the extra 10 pounds I'm looking for. Someone mentioned to me an EQ (400-600mg/week) cycle for 10 weeks as a first cycle without the Test. Do any of you seeing any benefit to doing EQ without Test?

Maybe EQ isn't the right choice anyways, any other recommendations for achieving the 10 extra pounds I'm looking for?

J

[esco]

i would do test e 500mgs/wk & eq 400mgs.wk ... good luck bro.

[hommer_j]

I tried an EQ only cycle for 10weeks and gained about 5 quality pounds that stayed with me all year. For the next time I'll run it with other "stuff" but I just wanted to test out my home brew @400mg/ml.

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by esco

i would do test e 500mgs/wk & eq 400mgs.wk ... good luck bro.

i agree. this is what im running. i wouldnt run eq qithout test, but i guess i wouldnt really run anything wihout test. thats just me though

[bugsy187]

well first of all, you have to see how good your genetics are. I mean there are people out there that have to take loads of test to see results and than there are some gifted ones like me who just take 400mgs of eq a week and gain serious muscle. It also matters how lean you are. If you are fairly lean, than eq will do wonders. its a big myth that you have to take test in all cycles. Test is no doubt a great drug, but its just not meant for all people. With a strong diet and good work out plan you could even put on a lot of muscle weight on anavar. I think eq should be more than enough for 10lbs of lean muscle mass. sure you can take test and gain about 20lbs...but u will loose 10lbs, and will be left with 10lbs. You will also get greater sides with test. I would suggest eq.

[Phreezer]

It's not that smart to run eq only bro.. As it will cause a supression of natural testosterone and you also run the same chance of developing what's called "Dica Dick" or in this case it would be EQ Dick.. as you would lose your sex drive altogether without any test in your system.

Also if you're injecting already, you should just go ahead and use test. If all you want is 10lbs you could probably even gain that much just running a 5 week oral only cycle of dbol.

If it were me, and I wasn't looking to bulk a whole lot..

I would run 500mg of Test each week for 8 weeks.. Get yourself some Nolvadex just in case..

Read the stickies in this forum about PCT and Cycling...

That is my advice to you.

[Phreezer]

lol.. I didn't advocate running a dbol only cycle.. what I said was.. He would gain the same from a DBOL only cycle.. He wouldn't have to take injections.. that is what I was getting at.. not that it was better...

The test for 8 weeks is what I was suggesting

[climber]

Phreezer's right....EQ can knock out your sex drive even while on Test....EQ alone, and your EQuipment would be out the whole cycle.

[Shockrock3]

I'm very vocal about EQ being garbage, I absolutely hate it...an EQ only cycle like one bro said is gonna get you MAYBE 5lbs...5lbs!!!! If you eat sensibly you can gain 5 solid lbs. without jabbing yourself. Complete and utter waste my friend. Personally, I find Deca SUPERIOR to EQ as far as gains, etc. Deca & Test is such a basic cycle but it's so good.

Shock

[atomicone]

I'd run Test only at 300-500mg EW for 10 weeks. You'll gain 20lbs if you eat and train right.

Originally Posted by JiHbE

Hey fellas,

After 5 years of hard training and eating my ass off I'm starting to think about taking something to gain the extra 10 pounds I'm looking for. Someone mentioned to me an EQ (400-600mg/week) cycle for 10 weeks as a first cycle without the Test. Do any of you seeing any benefit to doing EQ without Test?

Maybe EQ isn't the right choice anyways, any other recommendations for achieving the 10 extra pounds I'm looking for?

J

[JiHbE]

What kind of Test do you recommend for a first cycle? There are many choices it's difficult to know which one to choose. What is the point of EQ anyways? To provide shape and tone? Is it even worth it for a first injection cycle? I've done two oral cycles before with decent results (8 pounds total gained), both Winstrol 50mg daily ran for 30 days. I'm very lean as it is... 6'1" 180pounds and looking to gain a bit of bulk, nothing extreme as I'd prefer to avoid questioning from coworkers, family etc. etc.

Most importantly, can I expect to keep ANY of this in a year from now?

[lestatgear]

Originally Posted by JiHbE

What kind of Test do you recommend for a first cycle? There are many choices it's difficult to know which one to choose.

A long ester like cypionate or enanthate would probably be best.

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by JiHbE

What kind of Test do you recommend for a first cycle? There are many choices it's difficult to know which one to choose. What is the point of EQ anyways? To provide shape and tone? Is it even worth it for a first injection cycle? I've done two oral cycles before with decent results (8 pounds total gained), both Winstrol 50mg daily ran for 30 days. I'm very lean as it is... 6'1" 180pounds and looking to gain a bit of bulk, nothing extreme as I'd prefer to avoid questioning from coworkers, family etc. etc.

Most importantly, can I expect to keep ANY of this in a year from now?

you need to research a lot bro. especially about pct ( post cycle therapy) which is the most important part of the whole damn thing. pct is what will help you to keep all of your gains. also, dont worry about "gaining too much" its not nearly as easy as it sounds

[atomicone]

If you can get it go with Cypionate. I like the British Dragon version myself.

Originally Posted by JiHbE

What kind of Test do you recommend for a first cycle? There are many choices it's difficult to know which one to choose. What is the point of EQ anyways? To provide shape and tone? Is it even worth it for a first injection cycle? I've done two oral cycles before with decent results (8 pounds total gained), both Winstrol 50mg daily ran for 30 days. I'm very lean as it is... 6'1" 180pounds and looking to gain a bit of bulk, nothing extreme as I'd prefer to avoid questioning from coworkers, family etc. etc.

Most importantly, can I expect to keep ANY of this in a year from now?

[atomicone]

Very true. After the straight Test cycle I recommended I'd do the following:

week 12: HCg 500-1000iu 5-7 days
week 13 Clomid 100mg
week 14: Clomid 50mg
weeks 12-14: Nolvadex 10mg ED

Originally Posted by Massive690

you need to research a lot bro. especially about pct ( post cycle therapy) which is the most important part of the whole damn thing. pct is what will help you to keep all of your gains. also, dont worry about "gaining too much" its not nearly as easy as it sounds