First Cycle Log....input appreciated. - MESO-Rx

Gibbster · #1 (**permalink**) 08-16-2009, 02:10 PM

I figure I may as well make a log of this since I'm sure to need guidance here and there.

I did my first shot on Wed. Right Glute, Bled like a stuck pig afterward. Was sore as hell the next day (still a little sore today actually)

Running 500 mg Enanthate x 12 weeks
40 mg Turinabol per day
3 Gr. Triblulus per day. (This is in place of running HCG alongside the cycle)

I'll be using a taper, Trib, and Nolvadex for my PCT.

I planned this cycle with input from an IFBB Pro who runs his PCT etc. the same way.

Today is Sunday, I just did my second shot about 20 mins ago in the right delt.

I'm guessing this is purely placebo as I don't think anything should be hitting me yet (maybe the T-Bol??) But the amount of food I have been able to take down for the last day and a half is far past what I have been able to eat for the last couple pf months. My last workout on Friday was also off the hook! I actually felt before the workout that it was going to be intense.

I do have one question....... My Arimidex is .5 mg each. How should I use it? I popped the first one on Friday morning. They are caplets so I can't just cut em in half. I was thinking every three days instead of two? Input here would be greatly appreciated.

Started the cycle at 212 lbs and 16% bf. (I'm 5'6 1/2 - 5'7)
My goal is to add at least 15 lbs of LBM and drop some bodyfat in the process.

Looking forward to great posts!

bigrobbie · #2 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbster

I figure I may as well make a log of this since I'm sure to need guidance here and there.

I did my first shot on Wed. Right Glute, Bled like a stuck pig afterward. Was sore as hell the next day (still a little sore today actually)

Running 500 mg Enanthate x 12 weeks
40 mg Turinabol per day
3 Gr. Triblulus per day. (This is in place of running HCG alongside the cycle)

I'll be using a taper, Trib, and Nolvadex for my PCT.

I planned this cycle with input from an IFBB Pro who runs his PCT etc. the same way.

Today is Sunday, I just did my second shot about 20 mins ago in the right delt.

I'm guessing this is purely placebo as I don't think anything should be hitting me yet (maybe the T-Bol??) But the amount of food I have been able to take down for the last day and a half is far past what I have been able to eat for the last couple pf months. My last workout on Friday was also off the hook! I actually felt before the workout that it was going to be intense.

I do have one question....... My Arimidex is .5 mg each. How should I use it? I popped the first one on Friday morning. They are caplets so I can't just cut em in half. I was thinking every three days instead of two? Input here would be greatly appreciated.

Started the cycle at 212 lbs and 16% bf. (I'm 5'6 1/2 - 5'7)
My goal is to add at least 15 lbs of LBM and drop some bodyfat in the process.

Looking forward to great posts!

if you're proned to Gyno, or just don't wanna deal with sore and puffy nipples .5 per day is a

common dosage. it is expensive though, .5 eod is fine as well.

Reinheart · #3 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 02:31 PM

O.5mgs a-dex eod is just fine but tribulus instead of hcg is simply ridiculous. Stick with tribulus and zma while and after pct , not on cycle. Skip the t-bol since it doesn't kick fast enough to use it as a front-loading steroid and save it for the end of your cycle.

Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test
Weeks 9-14: 40-60mgs T-Bol
Weeks 1-14: 500iu HCG
Weeks 1-14: 50mgs Proviron
Weeks 15-18: Nolva or Clomid PCT

Gibbster · #4 (**permalink**) 08-17-2009, 03:30 PM

Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately, my supplier is nowhere near me so getting more/other gear is very difficult to do.
I've been seeing some gains in strength already. Being that Wed was my first shot (second was yesterday) I chalked it up to Placebo but my leg workout last night was the most intense session I've ever had. I passed all my previous Personal Bests and could have done more if I had a spotter.

I definitely notice an increase in aggression during my workouts which seems to be intensifed after I take my Arimidex. Being that I'm working out every second day right now, I'm taking the Adex 3 hours before my workouts.

I decided on the Trib. protocol on a suggestion from a Pro lifter who follows the same regime. If I see any TA though, I will definitely try and get some HCG. Is there anything else I should watch for that will tell me if the Trib isn't doing what I want it to?

Gibbster · #5 (**permalink**) 08-19-2009, 01:35 AM

I'm wondering if I should pin every 4th day or go every Wed and Sun. Any opinions? I imagine it won't make THAT big a difference right?

Reinheart · #6 (**permalink**) 08-19-2009, 01:49 AM

There is no need to shoot Test Enanthate 2 or more times a weak. One pin ew and you're good!

Gibbster · #7 (**permalink**) 08-20-2009, 01:03 AM

Did my 1 week weigh in and I'm up 8 freakin lbs already!! Also up 1% fat which means 2 lbs of that is fat but I am still amazed! No telling if any of that is water weight too. Nonetheless....I always told guys who accused me of being on juice in the past.... With the way I gain muscle, if I were on gear I would be huge! I guess we're going to find out.

I started at 212 lbs and 16%. Was hoping to finish at 220 and 12% or thereabouts. I am now sitting at 220 and 17%. That means in the next 11 weeks I need to drop 11 lbs of fat and put on 11 lbs of muscle. That should be entirely do-able.

Gibbster · #8 (**permalink**) 08-25-2009, 05:01 PM

Ok, my body must not like this shit!

My buddy bought mine and his gear all together and sent me what I paid for. So he's taking the exact same stuff and he said he is getting absolutely no post injection pain.

Me, I'm dreading every injection because the muscle I inject just kills me for days afterward.
Anyone else go through this? I thought maybe it was the BA content but my buddy isn't having any problems.

Weigh in tomorrow. Lifts all past previous personal bests already and just finishing up week 2. Thinking this Turinabol is doing a LOT of good.

Reinheart · #9 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 05:20 AM

What kind of needles do you use and how many injections a week do you do in the same spot?
Try using 23 gauge, 1 inch or 22 gauge 1.5 inch and keep in mind that on weekly injection is going to do it.

Gibbster · #10 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 02:25 PM

Using 25 Gu pins. Bi-weekly injections to keep my levels more stable. Rotating 6 sites. So far, every site has been a first as this is my first cycle.

I don't know if I hit a nerve dead on this morning when pinning my right Quad but that shit hurt instantly and I had to pull out right away.

Moved over a cm and pinned with no problem.

I pin per week would mean a 2 ml injection which would bother me more no?