First Cycle with Sustanon 250

[amitechie]

Dear BBers,

Help required here !!!

I am planning a 10 week cycle with Sustanon 250 on

125 mg on M-W-F for 10 weeks
(will keep Nolva in hand, just in case of gyno)

Can you suggest about Arimidex usage throughout the cycle, some mods say that Arimidex stops conversion of Test to estrogen.

Please also suggest PCT with HCG, Clomid.

Want to end the cycle with Clenbuterol !!!

Thanks in Advance

[Alphamale23]

i probably wouldnt go with adex at that low of a dose of test. u do want some water to lube up the joints and u need at least some estrogen.

[atomicone]

Originally Posted by amitechie

Dear BBers,

Help required here !!!

I am planning a 10 week cycle with Sustanon 250 on

125 mg on M-W-F for 10 weeks
(will keep Nolva in hand, just in case of gyno)

Can you suggest about Arimidex usage throughout the cycle, some mods say that Arimidex stops conversion of Test to estrogen.

Please also suggest PCT with HCG, Clomid.

Want to end the cycle with Clenbuterol !!!

Thanks in Advance

Why would you inject Sustanon 3X per week. It has well over a week (7-10 day) half life and if you've never done it just do one injection at 250mg per week (after a couple weeks it will kick in good and you'll feel it) for 8-10 weeks. You probably won't need any anti-estrogens, but I would maybe have Nolvadex 10mg on hand if you start getting the itches/tenderness around the nips. Also, make sure to get 20-30 50mg Clomid for the end of the cycle (especially the first 2-4 weeks after you go off) or you'll lose almost everything you gained. Another option would to do 250mg per week (1 shot) and 50mg Clomid every day for anti-estrogen protection plus a little bonus. I can't stress this enough, if you've never done cycle of testosterone then 250mg per week at first is just fine. You'll put on 10-15lbs in 10 weeks with very few side effects. FYI – I’d use a 22gauge needle to draw the oil, and inject with a 25g 1 inch syringe in the deltoid (rotate each week). It’s easier for small amounts and virtually painless. As for the Clenbuteral, I've never used it (I prefer 5ius of rHGH daily to keep lean, but that will cost much more). Clen should be used for only a short period and does have side effects so know what you're doing first (as always).

[lestatgear]

I'd agree that at that dose, he probably won't need an anti-e, but I would keep one on hand just in case. He's probably injecting three times a week to try and take advantage of the propionate ester. It seems to me that there are two schools on the thought of sustanon use. One says to inject it every other day to fully utilize the propionate, and one says injecting once to twice a week is fine due to the timed release structure of the compund. If this is your first cycle, I think a 500mg/week dose would yield great gains and it can be done in either one shot or spread over two. Personally, I would probably just use a long ester test like cypionate or enanthate for your first cycle, but that's just humble opinion.

[atomicone]

Originally Posted by lestatgear

I'd agree that at that dose, he probably won't need an anti-e, but I would keep one on hand just in case. He's probably injecting three times a week to try and take advantage of the propionate ester. It seems to me that there are two schools on the thought of sustanon use. One says to inject it every other day to fully utilize the propionate, and one says injecting once to twice a week is fine due to the timed release structure of the compund. If this is your first cycle, I think a 500mg/week dose would yield great gains and it can be done in either one shot or spread over two. Personally, I would probably just use a long ester test like cypionate or enanthate for your first cycle, but that's just humble opinion.

I agree with you 90%, but my first cycle was Sustanon 250mg per week for 8 weeks and nothing else. My size and strength went up huge. You always want to start at the lowest effective dose on your first cycle. Again I'd have to favor 1 injection per week (yes it will take 2 weeks to kick in, but much less pain and who cares) at 250mg +50mg Clomid. He won't be disappointed.

[finafreak]

Originally Posted by amitechie

Dear BBers,

Help required here !!!

I am planning a 10 week cycle with Sustanon 250 on

125 mg on M-W-F for 10 weeks
(will keep Nolva in hand, just in case of gyno)

Can you suggest about Arimidex usage throughout the cycle, some mods say that Arimidex stops conversion of Test to estrogen.

Please also suggest PCT with HCG, Clomid.

Want to end the cycle with Clenbuterol !!!

Thanks in Advance

My advice is from my exprience with Sostenon 250.

I would go M/W/F/ ONE AMP EVERY OTHER DAY,.The first week i would add a 4th amp in there to front load and have it kick in with some power.Add the arimidex eod at half a dose depending on ur sides,.

Now i always add an anabolic with an androgenic type of combo,.My best gains are when using Trenbolone every day at 100 mgs to have strenght ,and solid gains.

Or add Deca @600 mgs a week spread out evenly throught the week,.

let us know how it pans out


fina

[atomicone]

Originally Posted by finafreak

My advice is from my exprience with Sostenon 250.

I would go M/W/F/ ONE AMP EVERY OTHER DAY,.The first week i would add a 4th amp in there to front load and have it kick in with some power.Add the arimidex eod at half a dose depending on ur sides,.

Now i always add an anabolic with an androgenic type of combo,.My best gains are when using Trenbolone every day at 100 mgs to have strenght ,and solid gains.

Or add Deca @600 mgs a week spread out evenly throught the week,.

let us know how it pans out


fina

Why inject it 4 times per week just to get a little jump start (I'm just trying to spare him needless pain)? If you do a cycle for any real length of time you're going to see the same results, it will just kick in slower the first 2 weeks. If he really must go that route, I'd use straight Test Prop every three days for the first week with Sust instead, but that's just my opinion and I'm no dummy, but I'm not the ultimate authority either. Peace!

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by amitechie

Dear BBers,

Help required here !!!

I am planning a 10 week cycle with Sustanon 250 on

125 mg on M-W-F for 10 weeks
(will keep Nolva in hand, just in case of gyno)

Can you suggest about Arimidex usage throughout the cycle, some mods say that Arimidex stops conversion of Test to estrogen.

Please also suggest PCT with HCG, Clomid.

Want to end the cycle with Clenbuterol !!!

Thanks in Advance

bro for your first cycle I think its a good choice, that was mine also, I would go 250mg EOD or start at 500mg week mon and thur shots. then go up as needed. we need to know more about you, height weight etc; how do you train, what do are your goals from this cycle. I would also run the cycle for atleast 12 wks. with that said you should add about 25 lbs maybe 30. I thnk I put on 30 - 35 lbs

[finafreak]

Originally Posted by atomicone

Why inject it 4 times per week just to get a little jump start (I'm just trying to spare him needless pain)? If you do a cycle for any real length of time you're going to see the same results, it will just kick in slower the first 2 weeks. If he really must go that route, I'd use straight Test Prop every three days for the first week with Sust instead, but that's just my opinion and I'm no dummy, but I'm not the ultimate authority either. Peace!

Well esters in sustanon are very slow,.But once do catch up,.The weight will pile up like crazy,.Just like i said before its from my expreince,.Once i was done with my stack i weighed closed to 300 pds,.yes theres water involved but sus is a good bulking drug.

fina

[amitechie]

Dear BBers,

I was informed by certain MODS that 250 a week SUST would NOT work wonders.

I am currently 198 lbs with 10% BF, my legs are cut(not ripped), my upper body is slow in growth(was an athlete before).

My doc had given me 15mg(fifteen milligrams) of Deca Durabolin ONCE(you guys must be laughing !!!) .

It gave me a"anabolic kick", felt good (this was 5 years back),went off training for 4 years , just starting off again(also worked as Gym Trainer)

I was suggested:Sustanon 250(as it is OTC here in India, my doctor will be injecting me, so no pain issues or needle issues

250mg on Monday
250mg on Friday

FOR 10 weeks, ( i am planning to take 10-20 mg Nolva eod !!!)

Please re-suggest

[lestatgear]

Originally Posted by amitechie

Dear BBers,

I was informed by certain MODS that 250 a week SUST would NOT work wonders.

I am currently 198 lbs with 10% BF, my legs are cut(not ripped), my upper body is slow in growth(was an athlete before).

My doc had given me 15mg(fifteen milligrams) of Deca Durabolin ONCE(you guys must be laughing !!!) .

It gave me a"anabolic kick", felt good (this was 5 years back),went off training for 4 years , just starting off again(also worked as Gym Trainer)

I was suggested:Sustanon 250(as it is OTC here in India, my doctor will be injecting me, so no pain issues or needle issues

250mg on Monday
250mg on Friday

FOR 10 weeks, ( i am planning to take 10-20 mg Nolva eod !!!)

Please re-suggest

I think the 250mg twice a week will yield some decent gains over a 10 week time period for a first cycle as long as your training and diet are in check. I would hold off on the nolva unless it's definitely needed. Keep it on hand just in case. Looks good IMO.

[Deacon]

250 mgs of sus per week will yield results in some but from my experience you are better off goimng at least 500 per week.

I also like to inject Mon, Wed, Fri - and I like to use at least 750 mgs per week.

I get the best results this way the quickest.

SO - IMO it really depends on the user - perhaps the first time user is wiser to use 250 per week injected once. But after that I do not believe the results will be that great unless the doses are higher and the injects are more often.

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

for a first cycle 250mg would get descent results because your receptors are fresh to it. Anything other then a first cycle would be about 500mg a week to get good gains. Try to space it out every 3-4 days for an injection. It should kick in relatively quick since it has some prop in it which has a short ester.

[gerard1]

Originally Posted by Sir Lifts-a-Lot

for a first cycle 250mg would get descent results because your receptors are fresh to it. Anything other then a first cycle would be about 500mg a week to get good gains. Try to space it out every 3-4 days for an injection. It should kick in relatively quick since it has some prop in it which has a short ester.

If one goes with 250 per week, is it better to space it out into two injections during the week of 125 each?
What if it were 250 of Enanth instead of sust, how to space it out?

[bronzebeefcake]

Well personally Ive never suggested a cycle with test at a dose lower than 250mgs every 4th to 5th day at the most....Ive had some beginners make great gains on this dose but at once a week (sustanon) not as impressive...Sus doses IMO needs to be atleast 500 mgs a week....Remember its propianate and phenyl propianate in there...I can only imagine the peaks and valleys that may occur at 250 mgs once a week....I myself prefer EOD..MWF...