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I'm considering doing my first cycle of test cyp 400mg/wk for 8weeks. I am on trt which consists of 150mg test cyp/week, hcg, and .5mg arimidex 2x per week. I am on trt due to a varicosle and it has nothing to do with steroids. My test levels are around 1,000.

Does this seem like a decent cycle to start with where I can make significant gains? I figured I have less to loose than others since I'm already on trt and wouldn't have to worry about being shut down. I wouldn't have to do pct either, right? Also would you recommend raising the arimidex dose while on cycle?

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I'm considering doing my first cycle of test cyp 400mg/wk for 8weeks. I am on trt which consists of 150mg test cyp/week, hcg, and .5mg arimidex 2x per week. I am on trt due to a varicosle and it has nothing to do with steroids. My test levels are around 1,000.

Does this seem like a decent cycle to start with where I can make significant gains? I figured I have less to loose than others since I'm already on trt and wouldn't have to worry about being shut down. I wouldn't have to do pct either, right? Also would you recommend raising the arimidex dose while on cycle?

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Sounds like the best first cycle you can do. 400mgs of Test are more than enough. The only thing i would change is the duration of the cycle. I would strech it to 10-12 weeks.
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Sounds like the best first cycle you can do. 400mgs of Test are more than enough. The only thing i would change is the duration of the cycle. I would strech it to 10-12 weeks.
Cool, thanks man. About how big of gains do you think I will get in 12 weeks on 400mgs of test? Also any idea how much arimidex to take on cycle?
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How much do you weigh? I am on TRT and take 200mg per week. I recently did 600mg per week for 10 weeks. I definately loss some fat and gained muscle to offset. I weigh 285 though. The recovery from workouts was much better. I think I didn't eat enough even though I felt like I was eatting all the time. I only went up to 290 but my bodyfat dropped quite a bit so I was happy. I am pretty high bodyfat at about 18%. I had to go up to 0.4mg of Arimidex a day to keep the nipple soreness down.
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How much do you weigh? I am on TRT and take 200mg per week. I recently did 600mg per week for 10 weeks. I definately loss some fat and gained muscle to offset. I weigh 285 though. The recovery from workouts was much better. I think I didn't eat enough even though I felt like I was eatting all the time. I only went up to 290 but my bodyfat dropped quite a bit so I was happy. I am pretty high bodyfat at about 18%. I had to go up to 0.4mg of Arimidex a day to keep the nipple soreness down.
I weigh 200lb, 5'9 and not sure on bodyfat probably 15-20%. I can bench 325, squat 455, deadlift 405+. I'd like to add about 50pounds on my bench as well as increase everything else equally. I'm hopeing this cycle will do it. What do you think?

Also I normally workout 4 days per week for no more than 1 hour each day. On cycle, how much longer should I spend in the gym assuming I am lifting hard and heavy the whole time? Is overtraining still possible on cycle? I've overtrained before and it really sucked!
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I weigh 200lb, 5'9 and not sure on bodyfat probably 15-20%. I can bench 325, squat 455, deadlift 405+. I'd like to add about 50pounds on my bench as well as increase everything else equally. I'm hopeing this cycle will do it. What do you think?

Also I normally workout 4 days per week for no more than 1 hour each day. On cycle, how much longer should I spend in the gym assuming I am lifting hard and heavy the whole time? Is overtraining still possible on cycle? I've overtrained before and it really sucked!
You can still overtrain on cycle. What I did was just add one extra work set to each exercise(for me it was a drop set). I am also taking Nature-Throid and Hydrocortisone for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue.

I have been lifting for 26 years and my age I am sure isn't doing me any good. I did a PH cycle about 6 years ago with good gains. This cycle I was much more vascular and the body fat dropped. My strength didn't explode but increased from a plateau. With increase in red blood cells the cardio was much easier too. I give blood every 8 weeks to control the RBC count.

I have kind of a messed up right arm but have still managed a bench a little over 300 and deadlift 360 for 8 reps.

I have been on TRT for about 2 years. At first whenever I would change dosage it would really mess me up. I would get moody and depressed. When I went on a cycle after 1-1/2 years, it didn't change my mood much. I gradually increased my Arimidex from 0.15mg everyday to 0.4mg over about 4 weeks.
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You can still overtrain on cycle. What I did was just add one extra work set to each exercise(for me it was a drop set). I am also taking Nature-Throid and Hydrocortisone for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue.

I have been lifting for 26 years and my age I am sure isn't doing me any good. I did a PH cycle about 6 years ago with good gains. This cycle I was much more vascular and the body fat dropped. My strength didn't explode but increased from a plateau. With increase in red blood cells the cardio was much easier too. I give blood every 8 weeks to control the RBC count.

I have kind of a messed up right arm but have still managed a bench a little over 300 and deadlift 360 for 8 reps.

I have been on TRT for about 2 years. At first whenever I would change dosage it would really mess me up. I would get moody and depressed. When I went on a cycle after 1-1/2 years, it didn't change my mood much. I gradually increased my Arimidex from 0.15mg everyday to 0.4mg over about 4 weeks.
How do you feel on cycle compared to just trt? How is your libido/ED problems? So on cycle you had to take .4mg adex per day? How much do you normally take on trt? I take .5mg 2x per week.

I heard a good supplement to take for preventing overtraining is Driven Sports Lean Xtreme. It's designed for dieting and it suppresses cortisol.
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How do you feel on cycle compared to just trt? How is your libido/ED problems? So on cycle you had to take .4mg adex per day? How much do you normally take on trt? I take .5mg 2x per week.

I heard a good supplement to take for preventing overtraining is Driven Sports Lean Xtreme. It's designed for dieting and it suppresses cortisol.
I didn't feel that much different except for the increased stamnia. I was good gear because it was from my local pharmacy. The libido was up and no ED. I was only doing Test.

Arimidex went from 0.15mg per day on TRT to 0.4mg on cycle.

Don't know much about supplements other then vitamin/minerals and whey.
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