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Old 12-12-2004, 02:05 AM
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I'm on HRT for the rest of my life and i've tweaked my dosage in the past to 250mg for 8 weeks and called it a cycle. I gained about 4kg and have seemed to keep that.


I'm going to start a cycle next week which consists of

500mg Scherings Primoteston Weeks 1-10

250mg EQ Weeks 1-8

50mg Dbol Weeks 1-4

With Nolvadex on hand and HCG. I don't really think I'll be needing the HCG as i'll be back on HRT after this cycle anyway.

What do you guys think? Is that dosage of EQ adequate enough?

Current Stats - 22 years old - 5"8 - 180lbs - roughly 15% bf mainly round mid section.

Calorie intake 3800-4200 ED
Protein Intake 300g ED

Currently training 5 days a week, have been for the last 2 years rather steadily.

I don't want to hear 'you've still got natural growing to do' I would never in my wildest dreams have thought of using AAS until I was told I needed HRT for life.

Also the dbols that I'm getting are the 50mg caps. I'm receiving them on tuesday so I have no idea what they look like. Is there any way to split these up in 20/25mg doses? Thanks in advance.
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This is a hard one. You are pretty young still, I didn't do my first cycle until I was 24 and it was just Sustanon 250mg EW plus 100mg of Deca EW for 8 weeks. I gained about 16lbs and ended up keeping 5lbs with no PCT. You stated you don't want to hear any "you should be training natural" etc. so I won't. I would up the EQ to 400mg and run it either weeks 1-8 or 1-10 and I personally think 30mg of D-bol works just fine, but even if you take 50mg it should be taken 2-3X per day (it only has a 4-6 hour half life). I would take the powder out and buy some empty capsules and divide one 50mg cap into three caps approx. 17mg each (it's quite easy). Also, why are you on HRT at your age? Do you naturally have low Test levels?
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I'm well aware of the half life of dbol, but in saying that, I've read many threads about guys who have noticed the same benefits when taking it once a day. I'll do what you said about dividing the caps, sounds like a good idea.

As for the EQ, I'll see how I go with 250mg for this cycle, might up the dose on a cycle in the near future.

I had testicular cancer last year which is why I'm on HRT. I was one of the unlucky bastards whos other testicle wouldn't produce enough test.
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Sorry to hear of your battle with cancer bro.

As far as the dbol,I have taken all at once & split doses up,noticed no difference between the methods.I now just take it all at once in the morning or before workout.
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yeah, take the dbol about an hour before workouts or in the morning on off days...

atomic- I have a bro who did 100mg/day of dbol and all he got was bloody noses...I personally would not take 150mg/day of dbol, I think opening the caps like you said is the best bet
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I'm well aware of the half life of dbol, but in saying that, I've read many threads about guys who have noticed the same benefits when taking it once a day. I'll do what you said about dividing the caps, sounds like a good idea.

As for the EQ, I'll see how I go with 250mg for this cycle, might up the dose on a cycle in the near future.

I had testicular cancer last year which is why I'm on HRT. I was one of the unlucky bastards whos other testicle wouldn't produce enough test.
Congrats on beating the cancer, good job.
Good luck with the cycle.
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