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Old 11-10-2005, 05:26 AM
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Hi there,

I am planning to be a first time user,
and am dealing with choice issues.

I come from a position of low body fat and
I wish to put on a decent amount of muscle,
not to much, but a decent amount nevertheless.

Mostly however I wish to attain a defined, toned look, one
can see avery muscle, from six pack to pecks, to calves
to biceps, each one uniquely defined.

I also don't want to be on juice for very long, and preferably
I do not wish to do it again...

What is a safe option to take,
I really am worried about the health risks,
but not enought to rule out anabolics entirely, hehe,
and as I am in my early twenties, I don't really wanna
stunt any of my natural growth that might still occur.

What is a safe option to start off with, to give me the results
I want, and how long would I have to do them, before the
side-effects become a worry?

I would really appreciate some advice,
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:02 AM
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Mostly however I wish to attain a defined, toned look, one
can see avery muscle, from six pack to pecks, to calves
to biceps, each one uniquely defined.
Dont we all.

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I also don't want to be on juice for very long, and preferably
I do not wish to do it again...
Then dont to it the first time.


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I really am worried about the health risks,
Between this comment and the "only want to do it once" thing, I would advise you against using AAS at all.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:21 PM
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Doing AAS the smart/right way is doing alot of research , and it seems that your off the the right start by asking questions and having doubts.

I would def take Bob Smith's advice, I'm sure he knows more then me about the issue. But I also think its a personall issue, and you need to make the right choice for yourself.

The more reading/research you do, the more secure you might feel twards taking AAS.

Be safe bro

Get some Testosterone. 250mg/week for your first cycle. Make sure to read up on PCT (post cycle therapy)
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
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To expand on my "dont start" comment from earlier. The reason being that most guys get into AAS saying " I only want to do one cycle, thats it." That one cycle usually turns into a fairly regular cycle. So if you really do only want to try one cycle, I say dont give into the temptation and just stay natural.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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Thanks guys,

If there is one thing I appreciate more than anything, it is honesty.
I have been thinking about juice for almost a year now...
and I recently decided to get as educated as possible,
to make sure if I really wanted to do it or not.

I guess I have just been a little frustrated with going natural,
its just not in my genes to do it. I also believe in trying everything
at least once, and so that's why I am not to sure about doing it
more than just that one time.

I am sure that if I get worried about my health, I would stop.

If you pass by this thread again, perhaps you could answer a few questions
that I have trouble finding answers to:

1. AAS is supposed to weaken tendons, or perhaps not allow them to catch
up with the muscle gains. How does one remedy this problem after they have
completed a cylce?

2. Does taking estrogen blockers aggrevate the side-effects from the androgenic content of the roids. It seems unlikely, but I was just wondering.

3. As a male in my early twenties, will doing roids stunt the last of my natural
growth? I understand it permanently ends linear bone growth, so will an 8 week cycle stop my shoulders from widening naturally and such.

4. Can I get a toned, defined look from doing one of the testosterones,
or should I think on something else instead for this, or should I in fact use the
testosterones to gain initialy, and then mould my body somehow to its more
defined look?

I would appreciate the input on these points,
and anything further that you could add.
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If you're only planning on doing one cycle I think it's a waste to even do it at all. You need to decide to either do many cycles or not at all. There are many safe and conservative ways to us AAS. Despite all of the horror stories that the media perpetuates, AAS can be used safely.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:17 PM
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1. AAS is supposed to weaken tendons, or perhaps not allow them to catch
Winstrol will cause tendons to become more brittle. Most other AAS wont have much effect on them directly. The main issue only comes when your strength levels increase dramatically in a very short period of time. That is a good time to not push 100% in the gym, as people have torn pecs (pecs especially) and other muscles due to the tendon not being strong enough to handle the weight that the muscles can.

For the most part, its not much of an issue, but something that should be kept in mind.

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growth? I understand it permanently ends linear bone growth, so will an 8 week cycle stop my shoulders from widening naturally and such.
If youre in your 20s, its unlikely that you will experience any more bone growth naturally. As for AAS preventing futher bone growth, it is highly unlikely that a typical 6-10 week cycle would really have any effect.

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or should I think on something else instead for this, or should I in fact use the testosterones to gain initialy, and then mould my body somehow to its more defined look?
Just depends on your goals. If it were me and I was steadfast in only doing one cycle, I would use it to add as much muscle mass as possible.
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How long have you been training naturally? I wouldn't recommend doing it until your 24 and have been traing naturally for about 5 years.
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Bob gave alot of good advise here,,,i hope you take it to heart bro.
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damn Bob..you did more than I would...shit I studied aas for over one year before I did it...there is a lot of info across the boards that a mere search will come across.....many boards, many articles, many posts..your on the right track with valid questions...but with some deligence, you will find them
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