First Tren Cycle... ??'s

[juicer08]

this is going to be my firsy tren cycle i have done two cycles in my time consisting of test on the first one at 500mg weekly and the second with 625 of test and 300 deca im 21 years 220 12-13% my cycle coming up is as follows

1-10 Tren E 400mg w
1-10 Test E 500mg w
1-10 A-dex .25 daily

PCT
10-11 Hcg 2500iu once weekly
12-15 Nolva 40mg ed
Clomid 100mg ed

I would love to hear everyones opinion on this cycle anything and everything i want to stay away from that tren gyno..will a dex prevent this because where estrogen isnt there cant be any estrogenic sides am i correct? thanks dudes

[bigrobbie]

Originally Posted by juicer08

this is going to be my firsy tren cycle i have done two cycles in my time consisting of test on the first one at 500mg weekly and the second with 625 of test and 300 deca im 21 years 220 12-13% my cycle coming up is as follows

1-10 Tren E 400mg w
1-10 Test E 500mg w
1-10 A-dex .25 daily

PCT
10-11 Hcg 2500iu once weekly
12-15 Nolva 40mg ed
Clomid 100mg ed

I would love to hear everyones opinion on this cycle anything and everything i want to stay away from that tren gyno..will a dex prevent this because where estrogen isnt there cant be any estrogenic sides am i correct? thanks dudes

What is Prolactin or Progesterone Gyno?

[bigrobbie]

I just provided you with a link that may answer some of your questions on Tren...also, beware

the Tren cough!

[juicer08]

so what ancillary should i use in my cycle to prevent this from happening...and are you saying a dex wont work?

[Grappler76]

Therefore, it is better to use an anti-estrogen to combat tren based gyno. The only anti-estrogen I wouldn’t recommend for combatting this gyno is Nolva (tamoxifen) because in (J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2003 Sep;86(3-5):461-7) they found progesterone receptor expression increased, while it decreased with other anti-aromatase inhibitors.

Fantastic
So glad I chose nolva

[juicer08]

fellas i need some help here i read about the ancillary drugs all fuckin day i dont want to hinder my gains from this cycle i want as much lean mass as possible and i dont want any gyno what drug is going to do this a-dex, letro, dostinex, nolva??????? and im not so sure that im prone to gyno but i did get those lumps under my nips as a young pup but they went away should i run something through the cycle or just have something on hand just incase i want everyones opinion please fello juicers

[CoachG]

I like to include 0.5mg of pramipexole in my tren-containing cycles.

[trentracks]

Cabergoline

[bigrobbie]

Originally Posted by juicer08

fellas i need some help here i read about the ancillary drugs all fuckin day i dont want to hinder my gains from this cycle i want as much lean mass as possible and i dont want any gyno what drug is going to do this a-dex, letro, dostinex, nolva??????? and im not so sure that im prone to gyno but i did get those lumps under my nips as a young pup but they went away should i run something through the cycle or just have something on hand just incase i want everyones opinion please fello juicers

Personally, and some may disagree, I wouldn't run 10 weeks of Tren. There is some debate but

alot I have read hints that Tren gyno is amplified on long cycles run with aromatising steriods.

I'm on Test-E and Tren-A, had no gyno...I would guess, and again many may disagree, that any

gyno symptoms would come more from a Test / Tren combo, if you run your Tren for that long.

Think about running 4-5 weeks, mid cycle. Maybe drop from 100 mg of Clomid ed to 50 and

as little as 10-20 mg per week of Nolvadex I have found fends off Gyno. MY 2 cents.

[juicer08]

okay so your saying in my posty cycle therapy dont take clomid at 100mg instead down it to 50

mg and are you saying for the six weeks i run tren in my cycle use 10 to 20 mg of nolva ed

ive heard that nolva can amplify progesterone sides suchas gyno that to never use it in

conjunction with tren??