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im 45 years old 195 lbs ..i started deca cycle 2 weeks ago 200mg each week but i stopped today caise i was told that deca i not the way to go on fist cycle, what should i do ? can i get an advise
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I took Deca and Winstrol on my first cycle and it did ok for me. I got some solid, lasting gains of around 8 Lbs. of muscle and lost around 5% bodyfat during a 10 week course. I was taking 400mg of deca EW and 50mg of Winstrol EOD. I also tapered on and off the Deca at 200mg for the first and last weeks

There are problems with taking Deca only, one of the biggest being almost a complete loss of libido. I had to take 100mg of Viagra just to get enough steam to make it one go around with my girlfriend, and she was smoking hot.

The best thing to do if this is your first cycle is to switch to 500mg of Testosterone Enanthate each week divided into two doses of 250mg each. Take 1cc on Monday morning and 1cc on Thursday evening. Run the course for 12 weeks and then do your post cycle therapy. Also, keep some HCG on hand in case you need to keep your testicular atrophy in check while on cycle.

I have done cycles alone with both Deca and Test, and I can promise you that you will feel more energy and spark with Test.
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He is correct with test, Usually most guys shoot say 200mg of deca wk, and about 300-500mg of test each week. PCT with deca is kind of a pain, but here is what you'll need.

hcg 2 x 2500iu a week and I would go for 3 weeks
And 1mg Armidex a day for a month and you should be good to go. Because of Deca's half life being so long just keep some extra hcg on hand if you need to do some more to get your libido a little boost.
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He is correct with test, Usually most guys shoot say 200mg of deca wk, and about 300-500mg of test each week. PCT with deca is kind of a pain, but here is what you'll need.

hcg 2 x 2500iu a week and I would go for 3 weeks
And 1mg Armidex a day for a month and you should be good to go. Because of Deca's half life being so long just keep some extra hcg on hand if you need to do some more to get your libido a little boost.
If you do decide to keep the Deca and add the Test, stop the Deca at least two to four weeks before your last Test injection. This will allow time for the Deca to leave your system and make PCT much easier. Deca is very hard to recover from, but I can say that I kept about 90% of the gains that were made from the Deca.
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deca is good,but with 400mg week,but always add testosterone in cycle! testo need to be base!
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He is correct with test, Usually most guys shoot say 200mg of deca wk, and about 300-500mg of test each week. PCT with deca is kind of a pain, but here is what you'll need.

hcg 2 x 2500iu a week and I would go for 3 weeks
And 1mg Armidex a day for a month and you should be good to go. Because of Deca's half life being so long just keep some extra hcg on hand if you need to do some more to get your libido a little boost.
200 mg of deca is awful low-unless your 100lbs. it needs to be dosed at 2mg per pound bodyweight-per week.

with that being said the worst thing you can do on your first cycle is a 19nor-if you get gyno limp dick-you will have no idea why-it could be prolactin-bunk test etc etc

stick with test only on first cycle-if you must add another compound-choose an oral like dbol to kickstart-but def no 19nor
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I'd like to know where you got the information to do a deca only cycle? I've seen a lot of posts like this recently.
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yea running anything without test is a no-no

here is why

if i inject deca and suppress my natural testosterone levels-i will have no testoterone in my system. if a man has no test in his system what does that make him?
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LOL, newbie you're funny. I guess the only benefit to doing a deca or tren only cycle would be never to have sex again.
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LOL-yea bro that would be bad- i would not even rec tren and deca together with test. thats just too much prolactin!!!
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