frontloading

[MrBman]

well boys - im starting my cycle tomorrow or the next day - depends how i feel tomorrow ... kind of debating frontloading ... have any of you used it ... what are your experiences with it - did you really notice that much of a difference

[HDH]

Originally Posted by MrBman

well boys - im starting my cycle tomorrow or the next day - depends how i feel tomorrow ... kind of debating frontloading ... have any of you used it ... what are your experiences with it - did you really notice that much of a difference

I did. Some guys don't really care for it. I've heard more positive then negative. It's something you will have to try for yourself.

There's nothing like an oral kick-start though

HDH

[MrBman]

cool thanks for the response man - for the record i wasnt considering frontloading to kickstart the cycle ... i was considering it as an option to cut the length of my cycle by about 2weeks - was planning on using the same amount of gear regardless .. just figured maybe frontloading would get the results happening a little faster ... making the cycle length a little shorter - hopefully decresing the potential extent and severity of my hpta shutdown ... but come to think about it i dont think two weeks would make that big of a difference ...

for the record i agree ... orals are a fantastic way to kickstart ... im using dbols for mine -

cheers for the input man ... havent seen you on the forum in a good month or two ... glad to see you posting again brother ...

[Sensational]

I remember HDH from way back, when I was a youngin.

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by MrBman

cool thanks for the response man - for the record i wasnt considering frontloading to kickstart the cycle ... i was considering it as an option to cut the length of my cycle by about 2weeks - was planning on using the same amount of gear regardless .. just figured maybe frontloading would get the results happening a little faster ... making the cycle length a little shorter - hopefully decresing the potential extent and severity of my hpta shutdown ... but come to think about it i dont think two weeks would make that big of a difference ...

for the record i agree ... orals are a fantastic way to kickstart ... im using dbols for mine -

cheers for the input man ... havent seen you on the forum in a good month or two ... glad to see you posting again brother ...

i dunno why your asking everyone this, you know you luuuuuuvvvvvvvv those dbols bro and so do i

you know ya gonna take them cos you know you want too
im gonna stick em in my cycle next year, nout like a good dbol start bro, my pumps were as tight as a frogs arse last time i took them.

welcome back HDH

[juggernaught]

I like to use prop for my front load

[dennis]

Bman..tell us in detail about the cycle And hell yeah..I love prop too !

[juggernaught]

Nothing beats test kicking in for me

[LifeSize]

I'm-a frontload, but I'll be using prop..

[MrBman]

Originally Posted by dennis

Bman..tell us in detail about the cycle And hell yeah..I love prop too !

well brother its my original planned cycle

weeks 1 to 4 - dianabol - 40mg/day
weeks 1 to 16 - tren acetate 500mgs/week
weeks 1 to 16 - equipoise 600mgs/week
weeks 1 to 16 - test enanthate 600/week

i was just thinking of frontloading the equipoise and test ... get it kicking in faster - my philosophy was that if it kicked in faster, i could shave off the last two weeks - and keep the cycle to 14 weeks maybe make recovery easier - but ive decided against it - ill take the slow and steady gains - the trens gonna kick in fast enough .... no need to rush anything

didnt start the cycle today - odd as it sounds just didnt feel like it ... ive been very drained these last two weeks ... i want to make sure im fully upto par before starting it ....


i think theres a little confusion in regards to the conept im asking about - most people mistake frontloading and kickstarting to be the same thing - though very similar they are not completely the same ... we use things like prop, dianabol, anadrol etc. to kick start a cycle - they give you a little punch till the other substances kick into full gear ....

frontloading on the other hand is trying to cause an initial surge in hormones so that the hormonal levels peak and stabalize faster - when dealing with longer esters this still will not kick start your cycle ...

anywyas my question was in regards to frontloading and if you any of you have ever tried it ... and what you thought about it - in regards to longer esters ... i was wondering if frontloading something like equipoise really makes that much of a difference ... just curious to hear any experiences you all have with it

[dennis]

Originally Posted by MrBman

well brother its my original planned cycle

weeks 1 to 4 - dianabol - 40mg/day
weeks 1 to 16 - tren acetate 500mgs/week
weeks 1 to 16 - equipoise 600mgs/week
weeks 1 to 16 - test enanthate 600/week

i was just thinking of frontloading the equipoise and test ... get it kicking in faster - my philosophy was that if it kicked in faster, i could shave off the last two weeks - and keep the cycle to 14 weeks maybe make recovery easier - but ive decided against it - ill take the slow and steady gains - the trens gonna kick in fast enough .... no need to rush anything

didnt start the cycle today - odd as it sounds just didnt feel like it ... ive been very drained these last two weeks ... i want to make sure im fully upto par before starting it ....


i think theres a little confusion in regards to the conept im asking about - most people mistake frontloading and kickstarting to be the same thing - though very similar they are not completely the same ... we use things like prop, dianabol, anadrol etc. to kick start a cycle - they give you a little punch till the other substances kick into full gear ....

frontloading on the other hand is trying to cause an initial surge in hormones so that the hormonal levels peak and stabalize faster - when dealing with longer esters this still will not kick start your cycle ...

anywyas my question was in regards to frontloading and if you any of you have ever tried it ... and what you thought about it - in regards to longer esters ... i was wondering if frontloading something like equipoise really makes that much of a difference ... just curious to hear any experiences you all have with it

Bman..good job..I am jealous...live for me bro...live for me ! Hey, I understand what you are saying about front load completely.Since you are using dbol I would not use front load of test but my initial response is to up the eq to 800 for the first two weeks...then the more I think about it..you are using a good deal of gear bro..I would just leave it like it is planned....

[bigbench]

If you are frontloading the best ways to do so are using it with an enanthate ester or shorter and when using only one or two compounds. When using several or deconate or undeconate esters, the frontloading is not near as effective. Even when frontloading EQ, you still wont "feel" it til no sooner than week 4.

[MrBman]

thats what im gonna do dennis - i might start it today ... the gears just sitting there staring at me ... im tempted to just stick it in ... but i havent mentally been all there - a lot of stress ... need to reach a state of equilibrium before

Originally Posted by bigbench

If you are frontloading the best ways to do so are using it with an enanthate ester or shorter and when using only one or two compounds. When using several or deconate or undeconate esters, the frontloading is not near as effective. Even when frontloading EQ, you still wont "feel" it til no sooner than week 4.

thanks brother ... thats exactly the answer i needed ... its a bit confusing so many conflicting views about frontloading - it kinda sense now why people have such good reviews about enanthate frontloading - but you dont really hear it helping for deca ....

[Reinheart]

That's a lot of gear bro. Just be careful.

[chemical g]

BMan I love the way think brother you ask all the right questions and have great theories. That cycle you are going to take is awesome I rate it as a winner. I am starting my cycle next week
Week 1-4 3xsustanon (750mg) 500mg test prop and 600mg equipoise
Week 5-12 2x sustanon (500mg) 500mg test prop and 600mg Equipoise

I prefer to use sus over test enanthate but its a personal pref. Test prop works well to start up a cycle and during a cycle I am not big into orals. Good luck with your cycle man.