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Old 05-06-2004, 09:50 PM
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Which gear will help keep gains after stopping usage?

I always hear and read when you stop you lose whatever gains you made when using gear.

Is there any gear out that when you stop ,you keep some of the gains ?

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Primo @ 100-200mg per week ... I belive that under 200mg it doesnt supress your HTPA. There was somthing a while ago about bridging with Dbol... Somthing like you had to take 5-10mg Dbol ED in the AM (it might have been before 9am)... I also remember hearing about low dose anavar... somthing like 5mg ED... not sure about the last one... Better ask around.

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Of course there is always GH... Ive heard lots of good stuff about using that when comming off... maybe IGF1 does the same thing?

ok, im done :-)
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Which gear will help keep gains after stopping usage?

I always hear and read when you stop you lose whatever gains you made when using gear.

Is there any gear out that when you stop ,you keep some of the gains ?

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Do you mean PCT stuff? Clomid, nolvadex, run a search for these. If it's bridging, search for that. Big Libby had a nice post about using D-Bol instead of primo like Tank said.
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Of course... I figured you were talking about bridging ... make sure you have your recovery cycle planned out... you'll need clomid or nolva, HCG (depending), and there are other things you can take.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention i'm a female so it's different,oops

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Sorry, I forgot to mention i'm a female so it's different,oops

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Lol... common now... that is a bit important

Never really looked into women and GH... You could possibly bank on the idea of Clen being used as an Anti-Catabolic....

as far as primo goes... the doseage of 50-75mg per day (tablets, not inj) virilization symptoms are very uncommon... (and thats the full dose for a woman)... perhaps if you took half of that... like say... 25mg or even 20mg per day it would help...

Also, what about taking a Medium dose of nolva when you come to the end of your cycle and slowly decreasing the amount of nolva you take over a period of say 4 weeks or so... Since it would be my guesss that your body is trying to reach equilibrium (durring cycle) so its having to raise estrogen levels to match up to the raised androgen levels... therefore maybe at the end of your cycle when the androgens are no longer being taken you should take nolvadex to counter the increased amount of estrogen in your body... and slowly taper it off over about 4 weeks or so durring which time your estrogen levels can lower themselves...

Another drug that helps stabilize hormone levels is Bromocriptine so perhaps you should look into taking 2.5mg ed for a while after you stop cycle. if you do decide to take this stuff... I highly recomend you cut the 2.5mg tabs in half and take a half tab for 1 week and then a full tab from there out... take before 9am in the morning as your dopamine levels increase after that point (bromo is a D1 antagonist and a D2 agonist... diff types of dopamine receptors).. but I digress...
you might also want to consider taking it with food in the Am for the first week as it helps supress some of the symptoms (nausea, headaches, dizzyness, ect)

ok, hope that helps..

oh, all of what I said... this is just my opinion... make sure and ask around to everyone else. If you dont get any luck here... try the WOMENS FORUM... they might be able to help you.
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A lot of women use Anvar and Clen. I also heard some women use 50mg of deca per week with great results. I have kept most of my gains with Deca. Read the profiles they help.
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Try Methyldienolone, it's leagle and as a women you should do well with it. No you won't loose all your gains once you stop using gear. Don't overtrain and eat clean and plenty of protien and you will hang on to most. Over the long term (years) you will probably need to continue to cycle AAS to maintain size beyond that has been added above the natural level.
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my wife and i have been on hgh for two months now. we got ours form our doc.
there have been some real streanth gains for her shes getting dam strong and shes only 105 pounds. right about to start her first cycle of clen and deca soon will tell then about the results. The skin on her face and arms have really tighted up. Oh by the way she's 44 years old and realy in good shape.
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Bluerain, welcome aboard.
Most women I've worked with kept most, if not all of their gains. With men a lot of gear turns into estrogen, which causes water retention, which most guys mistake as solid muscle gains!, which goes away when they stop.
My GF is on her second cycle. In her first cycle she used a small amount of Deca and 10mg Anavar ED. We only kept her on 6 weeks and she gained about 10lbs of muscle! She did not lose one lb after coming off.
I know I don't need to say this but, Women must be very careful with gear. Most of the side affects are permanent, At the first sign of sides women must stop!
There are alot of Knowledgable Bro's (and Girls!) who know more than I on this subject, so please continue to post here. We will answer all your questions, please read everything you can on this board. Use the search option at the top of the page.
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