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Old 07-25-2008, 02:05 PM
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I'm looking for well educated intellectuals for advice. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Age: 33
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 182
Sex: M
Test: 536
BF%: 15-20

My current symptoms are:
-gyno (very slight, but people notice and make fun of me)
-increase in body fat % (used to be 3-5% until last year)
-can't finish a workout (used to go balls out almost to the point of puking, cant now)
-can't focus at work, not as sharp, can't concentrate
-tired all the time, can't get myself out of bed
-no motivation, lazy, lathargic
-no libido (I know it works, at least when I'm sleeping)
-orgasm not strong, sperm count lower than used to be
-results from lifting seem to have halted (I've done aggressive routines and can provide details)
-Gut and Butt accumulating the most fat, i want a six pack
-bad memory loss, cant study or remember material to pass tests

My history over the last year:
I blew out my L4-L5 last August doing sumo squats and was only doing 225 lbs. In high school I was able to do 225 20-25 reps with ease, now different body parts are breaking! Before the injury I was on 14-20 different OTC supplements to compensate for lack of energy, motivation, quality of sessions. I've tried a lot and it helped to some extent but I experienced severe aggression, anxiety, insomnia, and slight hair loss. I was taking 1mg propecia daily for MPB during this time. After the injury, I stopped everything except the propecia and began taking norco, soma, and diclofenac / ibu 800. I stopped propecia in December and have had accelerated hair loss since. I stopped the other meds in April. Since then, I've gained fat and have signs of gyno. No nipple sensitivity, but I did have them pierced for several years of my life.

Two weeks ago, I started the exercise routine and diet that I was doing last year before the injury.

My goals:
-eliminate all symptoms above
-need focus, memory, concentration so I can perform at work
-get back to 4-5% body fat, want to get rid of the flab
-more muscle and definition than ive ever had before in my life, been lifting since a teenager and tired of mediocre results.
-overall improve my health and well being
-eliminate gyno
-restore libido

I would like to achieve this in 2 months but if I need a little longer, so be it. I rather do it right and slow than fast and wrong. HOWEVER, don't interpet this the wrong way. I already have a tight diet and exercise routine, continued from last year. That by itself is not working. I'm looking to use test enth, 10 amps 250mg, 35 tabs of winny.

This should be enough to get the thread going. Later I have questions about:
-the best method/cycle to use this.
-Need PCT advice as well.

Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:41 PM
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Forgot my BP!

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Don't tell me I stumped the experts...

Someone must have an opionion, idea, something...?
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Arwe you running anything right now?
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Absolutely nothing...
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FIrst of all, WELCOME TO AGE 33. This is about when everything starts to go in the shitter for sure. Most likely a lot of your problems are simple coincidental age related. You need to get more labs. Free test, e2, sbgh, etc/// I have heard alot of people claiming long term probs from propecia/finestrde. Not sure though, never paid enough attention to determine if coincidental or not... FInd out what labs to get in trt forum. THese guys all say that estriadol is the main problem as for getting out of wack and hard to control.. I am guessing simple aging and you need to familiarize yourself with hormone replament therapy, if you want to feel good again. You may have juiced right through your natural decline and woke up in a vanilla sky...
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That's just great. Thanks. But that's one thing I figured about age. For the propecia though, I did not hear any long term side effects. What have you heard exactly? Is it what I've already listed? Was not expecting that, but this is why I posted all of that info. In case someone has heard of or knows something that I do not. Through all the reading I've been doing, I had the same idea of estrogen/estriadol may be the cause for agression and rage. I started to take the OTC supps cuz of not being able to finish a workout like I used too. Vanilla sky? This feels more like hell. I'm looking in to HRT right now actually. Thanks, this helps a lot.
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Wow how do you hurt your back summoing 225 ???????????????????
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Wow how do you hurt your back summoing 225 ???????????????????
Yea, I know that sounds funny on the surface. Bu tyou will find as you age, you can hurt your back just liiking the wrong way at the wrong time. I am only 37....
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Yep, sure did. I know, it's embarassing. I first blew a disc about 10 years ago. So I had that in the back of my mind and didn't want to do it again. And a year ago, I didn't know the pituitary gland was shutting down, which means less HGH, and T production, which equals being weaker and more susceptible to injury.

Something I noticed that may be useful to know. The discs in your back weaken with age. The are filled with a jelly type substance and they basically dry up as you get older. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it either. When you herniate or buldge a disc, the jelly squeezes out of the disc against the nerves in your spine (sciatica for example). When I took Nitrix especially, but creatine or anything similar, it made the pain less. I believe this would accelerate recovery, if you rest and do not put any weight / load on the spine. I have to mention I'm not a doctor. All I can say is I noticed a significant difference, for the better, when I took these supps. I believe the reason is due to the saturation of the body cells with water. Therefore reversing the drying up of the jelly like substance in the disc.
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