Going for that edge!

[eviltech]

sup fellow meatheads, Im 23 years old. 5'6" 170lbs 9-10 percent fat. I've been lifting for 5 years. I never took PH before. Im ready to try AAS, but im going to take small steps. Im thinking about taking Test-E 250mg/10 wks. Wk 12-15 PCT with Clomid 50/wk and Nolva 20/wk. Hopefully it will give me some gains and understanding of AAS on the body. Just trying to be bigger, faster, stronger. Im looking for any suggestions that you guys might have.

I eat around 7 meals every 2.5 hours a day.
Meal1= 1 cup egg whites, 2 eggs and a bowl of oatmeal
Meal2= turkey breast sandwhich and fruits
Meal3= 2 chicken breast
Meal4= Protein Shake with Oats
Meal5= Protein Shake
Meal6= Chicken or Steak Dinner
Meal7= Cup of cottage cheese and a protein shake

I run 3 miles EOD.
Training goes like this:
Sun= Legs
Mon= Back
Tues= Chest
Weds= Off
Thurs= Arms
Fri= Shoulder
Sat= Off

[prodigy06]

sounds good. I'd do 500mg / wk though.. 250 is on the low low side.

[RockHard]

250mg a week is weak! I did that half of my cycle and wish I would have went straight to 500.

[novicebb]

Yeah 250mg would basically just replace your own body's Testosterone/androgen production. Especially since this will be your first cycle period, your body is primed for synthetic exogenous amount of Testosterone.

Plus you have to realize that although you are taking 250mg of Test E, it isn't actually 250mg of "free" test. Plus although it is a long ester, you may suffer some wild fluctuations with just one injection of such small amount weekly.

Plus what is this Clomid 50/wk and Nolva 20/wk business? Do you mean you only going to take 50mg of clomid and 20mg of nolvadex per week?

You won't see much gains at all from just 250mg of Test E per week and you won't keep any of the little you may see with just 50mg and 20mg of clomid and nolva respectively.

[andysutils]

looks ok but theres a few flaws in there.

if your looking for size, that seems like a lot of cardio your doing, what is it your doing now? cutting or gaining size? you cant do both at the same time.

also id go for 500mg test per week and for 12 weeks not 10, you can still make good gains from 250mg pw but thats a bit of a gamble so id shoot for 500.

your diet looks like it has a lot of protein but barely any calories or carbs at all. Clomid can have some bad sides and you have nolva on hand, so id ditch the clomid and just stick with the nolva for your PCT.

[dennis]

I gained well over 20 lbs on 250 mgs of test for 13 weeks first cycle and was not even eating as much as I should have been.Looking back on it though if I could do it all over again I would have used 250 mgs every 5 days and eaten double the amount of calories.

[irish_2003]

are you in the military that you're running that much? if so upped your carbs while on cycle as well as the high protein

also I agree with most that 500mg/wk split mon/thur 250 each to start is best for what you're looking for but not more

if you choose to use clomid for pct then day 1 300mg clomid, days 2-11 100mg clomid, days 12-21 50mg clomid

keep nolva on hand in case gyno sets in during cycle and then use 10-20mg a day until it subsides, but most likely you won't need it at all until after cycle

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by dennis

I gained well over 20 lbs on 250 mgs of test for 13 weeks first cycle and was not even eating as much as I should have been.Looking back on it though if I could do it all over again I would have used 250 mgs every 5 days and eaten double the amount of calories.

that doesnt suprise me at all, like i said above, i know others that have gained some fab poundage on just 250mg per week. im sure ill be ok personally on my test cycle, my new diet plan works out at 4800 cals per day

[Bridger]

You can make great gains on just 250mg a week your first time.

I'm on 120mg wk hrt and that puts me in the high normal range. 250 will put you well into an anabolic state. Start with 250 this time and see how you react to the possible sides, they will be easier to control with a smaller dose too. Its not a race we are a part of, but a marathon.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by Bridger

You can make great gains on just 250mg a week your first time.

I'm on 120mg wk hrt and that puts me in the high normal range. 250 will put you well into an anabolic state. Start with 250 this time and see how you react to the possible sides, they will be easier to control with a smaller dose too. Its not a race we are a part of, but a marathon.

Always remember"less is more" in most cases