Good Fat Burner on Cycle?

[so_money]

I am about 5 weeks into my test cyp. cycle at 400mg a week plus 50mg a day of proviron and one 10mg nolva per day.

Gains finally started hitting me, but i am gaining a considerable amount of fat also. I am 6'2 220lbs, Not sure about my bf % yet. I got a lot fatter in the face and stomach as well as some little love handles. Its not a huge deal at all, you can only really see the stomach fat when i dont have a shirt on and sitting down.

My diet isnt really clean right now, but i am started a much cleaner bulk tomorrow. I would like a good fat burner but not sure what to get. I dont want any drugs used as cutters, just something over the counter. I also would like to steer clear of any appetite suppressants, for obvious reasons. I was thinking that a good thermogenic might be good, but i would like some advice on this. Any product suggestions that fit this kind of criteria would be very useful. Thanks!

[terrorizer2]

To be honest mate i don't think you need a fat burner.I think you are just eating too many calories.How many calories a day do you think you are eating?.

I know people say eat,eat,eat on a cycle,but there is a limit and if you exceed that you will get fat.

Drop the calories a little and you will stop getting fat.

When you have finished your cycle and PCT then you can drop the calories a little more and up the cardio and you will lose that excess fat with a good diet and training regime.


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[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by terrorizer2

To be honest mate i don't think you need a fat burner.I think you are just eating too many calories.How many calories a day do you think you are eating?.

I know people say eat,eat,eat on a cycle,but there is a limit and if you exceed that you will get fat.

Drop the calories a little and you will stop getting fat.

When you have finished your cycle and PCT then you can drop the calories a little more and up the cardio and you will lose that excess fat with a good diet and training regime.


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Yeah it's true. Eating a lot is good but overeating isn't. I started eating an absolute ton, sure I got very big very fast, but it also came with a good amount of fat. I figure if your on a bulking cycle don't worry about it so much, its more important to pack on muscle. Then cut it later by a better lower cal. diet, and mod. cardio.

[Président]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

Yeah it's true. Eating a lot is good but overeating isn't. I started eating an absolute ton, sure I got very big very fast, but it also came with a good amount of fat. I figure if your on a bulking cycle don't worry about it so much, its more important to pack on muscle. Then cut it later by a better lower cal. diet, and mod. cardio.

Agree! You cannot cut and bulk at the same time.

[so_money]

yeah, my diet isnt completely perfect. Its ok, but not perfect. If someone was to around the right amount of calories per day, but a lot of fatty foods., they would still get fat right? Or to gain fat are just taking in too many calories?

I know the diet is number one, but i was thinking adding a thermogenic to my workouts might help, or is it completely pointless?

[375Ranger]

I've had great success with an ECT stack, 25mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, 1g tyrosine. I have also included 5mg yohimbine HCL. I have noticed that i do need to be more aware of the time during the day because if I don't, I'll go too long with out eating. I still cheat once in a while, but my diet is pretty clean...consistency is the key. Try taking 1-2 g tyrosine 2 x a day, that with help your energy alot. Maybe your eating too much from smoking the ann arbor "bud"! Just kidding bro, Im from Mi too. I worked in Ann Arbor....lots of hippies and tree huggers.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by so_money

yeah, my diet isnt completely perfect. Its ok, but not perfect. If someone was to around the right amount of calories per day, but a lot of fatty foods., they would still get fat right? Or to gain fat are just taking in too many calories?

I know the diet is number one, but i was thinking adding a thermogenic to my workouts might help, or is it completely pointless?

Too many calories will make you fat. Extreme amounts of fat (cals) will make you fat, like fried everything. Thermos can help but also can mess with the amount of muscle you put on. I find that eating as clean as possible but still getting good cals and mod. cardio like 3x week for only like 20 mins or so is enough to prevent me from packing more fat. I don't loose it like that but it kind of saves me from being a fat ass. I get fat REAL easy. And it is a constant struggle to stay cut.