HGH question !!!

[jouhan111]

i already read that HGH needs at least 3-6 months before any results to show up ... my questions is does HGH have any effect on a short time like 6-8 weeks if stacked with another steroid like testo ? or all the credits goes to testo alone ? any info is really appreciated ....

[jouhan111]

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[jouhan111]

any help guys ... anyone ... any idea ...

[LifeSize]

Some people see fat loss quickly, others take 5-6 months.. By "5-6 months for results to show" it could mean that at half a year, it just started to kick in where you can actually tell, that means you would want to run it for at least double that.

What are your goals? Why not just invest that money in a better cycle? GH isn't really all that bro..especially if you aren't at that pro level yet.

[jouhan111]

Originally Posted by LifeSize

Some people see fat loss quickly, others take 5-6 months.. By "5-6 months for results to show" it could mean that at half a year, it just started to kick in where you can actually tell, that means you would want to run it for at least double that.

What are your goals? Why not just invest that money in a better cycle? GH isn't really all that bro..especially if you aren't at that pro level yet.

wow finally an answer thx man .... well about my goals i'd like to add 10-15 lbs of lean mass ... am already been lifting for a while and am planning my first cycle ... am afraid that testo alone will bulk me up in way that i will loose quickness and agility ... on the other way am concerned that testo will make the injury risk higher... maybe if combined with GH that wont happen .... so let me put it in an other way i am now in my off season(basketball) and working hard in the weight room and out the weight room so i need something to help me to be the best i can be, and comes out my system before the season starts .... i want to use the 2-3 months of offseason the best way possible to increas my strengh my size my quikness ....

[bobvongule]

Are you going to keep asking the same question until someone gives you the answer you want to hear? In your other post you said you play basketball as a hobby, right? Who is going to test you for juice? The recreation league committee? There is no miracle drug that will shed fat, increase strength, increase size, increase agility and quickness without the risk of injury. The prop will "help" you build lean mass and strength. Your diet, increase of cardio and circut training will help burn fat while increasing your lung capacity. Running sprints, doing ladder runs, jump boxes and pilates will help you gain agility and quickness. Keep in mind it is not easy to add 15lbs of lean mass in 3 months by doing all of these things. I know if you lost 15lbs of fat in 3 months you would be faster, more agile, leaner and probably even get stronger with the right training. Maybe doing a cycle isn't your answer!! If basketball is your passion then you need to train for your sport.Try some quality over the counter supplements. Not trying to be a dick but I don't think you need steroids and certainly don't need HGH to be a better baskeball player.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

Are you going to keep asking the same question until someone gives you the answer you want to hear? In your other post you said you play basketball as a hobby, right? Who is going to test you for juice? The recreation league committee? There is no miracle drug that will shed fat, increase strength, increase size, increase agility and quickness without the risk of injury. The prop will "help" you build lean mass and strength. Your diet, increase of cardio and circut training will help burn fat while increasing your lung capacity. Running sprints, doing ladder runs, jump boxes and pilates will help you gain agility and quickness. Keep in mind it is not easy to add 15lbs of lean mass in 3 months by doing all of these things. I know if you lost 15lbs of fat in 3 months you would be faster, more agile, leaner and probably even get stronger with the right training. Maybe doing a cycle isn't your answer!! If basketball is your passion then you need to train for your sport.Try some quality over the counter supplements. Not trying to be a dick but I don't think you need steroids and certainly don't need HGH to be a better baskeball player.

I didn't know he wanted to be a back yard baller.. you're 100% right.

6-8 weeks on Prop and Var.. i'll probably close out my cycle like that..been on tren for 50 days now! woooooo! I feel great, i can do 50 more.

[bobvongule]

I knew you were too smart to get roped into one of those threads. Didn't we just have one of these crazy threaders among us? Like Yogi Berra said "It's like DeJaVu all over again".

[jouhan111]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

Are you going to keep asking the same question until someone gives you the answer you want to hear? In your other post you said you play basketball as a hobby, right? Who is going to test you for juice? The recreation league committee? There is no miracle drug that will shed fat, increase strength, increase size, increase agility and quickness without the risk of injury. The prop will "help" you build lean mass and strength. Your diet, increase of cardio and circut training will help burn fat while increasing your lung capacity. Running sprints, doing ladder runs, jump boxes and pilates will help you gain agility and quickness. Keep in mind it is not easy to add 15lbs of lean mass in 3 months by doing all of these things. I know if you lost 15lbs of fat in 3 months you would be faster, more agile, leaner and probably even get stronger with the right training. Maybe doing a cycle isn't your answer!! If basketball is your passion then you need to train for your sport.Try some quality over the counter supplements. Not trying to be a dick but I don't think you need steroids and certainly don't need HGH to be a better baskeball player.

thx guys for the reply ... and its not that i keep asking the same question to get the answer i want its just the guy that is going to bring me the gear insists on GH and u guys in my first thread adviced me that GH is not that usefull and thats fine with me ... i just thought if i title the thread with GH maybe someone who had used it wid test share his experiance with me nothing more ....
on the other hand i know that there is no magical drug that will do me all that .... and yeah am actually doing all the drills ur talking about and its ME not the drug my goal is to take the best possible result out of the running and sprinting and box jumping....its true am not professional and its a hobby but am playing in a team of amateurs in a non professional league under a non professional federation but still they have the right to test me and they MIGHT(as i mentioned before they never did) .... am not a lasy ass guy i practice daily hard in the gym out the gym in the basketball court and am not loking for a magical drug to do the job for ME all i want is to benefit to the max of my off season ......
i think u missunderstood me anyway i guess for sure am staying away from GH and i'll research more about steroids since maybe its going to be useless using steroids as u said its not easy to gain 15 lbs in 3months (knowing i was planing for 6-8weeks cycle wich is less then 3 months) if u have any more advice or anything else to say i'd like to hear and lurn .... once again am verry thankfull for u taking ur time and reading my first thread and the dejavue again hehe

[bobvongule]

Anyone pushing GH on a person is called a drug dealer. He will try to sell you anything to make a buck. If it is real GH you will need 2-6iu's a day. I say 4. Some people go 5 days on and 2 off some go 7 days a week. Now if it is real GH it should cost you somewhere between $250-$500 a kit. One kit will last you @ 1 month (4iu's 5 on 2 off). You most likely will not see results until well into the 2nd month. The results you will probably see, without the addition of test, will be a reduction in fat and tighter skin. Do not be under the misconception you will look and perfom like Barry Bonds did 5 years ago. It does not make you big and strong without the addition of AAS. Remember people in Hollywood are using this to rejuvenate their youth. You're 27? If you go this route, I would do it for 5 months minimum. At say $300 a kit? Feel me? Spend that on gear and you will be far more ahead of the game. Good luck.

[jouhan111]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

Anyone pushing GH on a person is called a drug dealer. He will try to sell you anything to make a buck. If it is real GH you will need 2-6iu's a day. I say 4. Some people go 5 days on and 2 off some go 7 days a week. Now if it is real GH it should cost you somewhere between $250-$500 a kit. One kit will last you @ 1 month (4iu's 5 on 2 off). You most likely will not see results until well into the 2nd month. The results you will probably see, without the addition of test, will be a reduction in fat and tighter skin. Do not be under the misconception you will look and perfom like Barry Bonds did 5 years ago. It does not make you big and strong without the addition of AAS. Remember people in Hollywood are using this to rejuvenate their youth. You're 27? If you go this route, I would do it for 5 months minimum. At say $300 a kit? Feel me? Spend that on gear and you will be far more ahead of the game. Good luck.

gr8 information man ... i was going to get ripped off ... the dealer wanted arround 1000$ for a cycle of 6 weeks we didnt go throw details like the amount of each injection but he mentioned something like 3 injection/week so for sure for the whole 6 weeks cycle i would not have used more then a kit like the one ur talking about wich supposed to cost me 300$ ....anyway i dont intend to keep having injections for 5 months therefor GH is out of the equation for sure .... i guess as a conclusion and correct me if am wrong if i was going to get any gear its going to be test for a cycle of 6-8 weeks with arimidex along and a proper pct of hcg and clomid after ...

[bobvongule]

good start. rather than high intensity cardio try walking 45 min. before you eat in the morning and 30 min after you weight train. this will help you lose fat and maintain muscle.

[jouhan111]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

good start. rather than high intensity cardio try walking 45 min. before you eat in the morning and 30 min after you weight train. this will help you lose fat and maintain muscle.

aha good advice , i'd like to give u an idea about my workout for ex i do squats for 30 seconds (arround 15 rep) then squat jumps 15 rep right after with 1 min of rest ... 3 sets then for ex dead lift for 30second each set followed by 15 box jumps .... and so on for the lower body 4 diffrent exercices with 4 diff kinds of jumps each day of workout ... i work 2 days the lower body and 2 days uper body ... the uperbody i just do 4 sets for each diff musule for ex bench press 10 rep with 60kg 10 rep with 80 kg 8 rep with 100kg then 8 rep with 90 kg ....thats for the chest on day one and on day 2 of the week i do the inclined bench for ex and so on for other musules groups .... if am going to start the cycle am thinking about improving my uperbody workout ....but am more concerned about the lower body routine since it includes lot of jumping and many repetetions will i acheave gains under such workout ??

[bobvongule]

I will be honest with you, I do not do sport specific train myself. I used to train for size and strength but have recently increased reps and lowered my weights. As far as training for basketball, I would concentrate on shoulder strength and flexibility through high reps and stretching. Lower body would require sprints, jump rope, side shuffle maybe some jump stretch band training exercises. As you progress work some kettle bell circut training and some clean and press exercises in there. That would be a good post for one of the other Forum Categories where more of the certified fitness guru's hang.

[jouhan111]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

I will be honest with you, I do not do sport specific train myself. I used to train for size and strength but have recently increased reps and lowered my weights. As far as training for basketball, I would concentrate on shoulder strength and flexibility through high reps and stretching. Lower body would require sprints, jump rope, side shuffle maybe some jump stretch band training exercises. As you progress work some kettle bell circut training and some clean and press exercises in there. That would be a good post for one of the other Forum Categories where more of the certified fitness guru's hang.

i appreciate all the ideas and drills u suggested am really thankfull