Hgh Welts

[solo47]

Shouldn't post this on a Saturday night since it'll be way down the line when most of the mods deign to check the list & give some reliable advice. But...

At the end of my second week on HGH, 4iu daily in two shots. First week was okay, though red marks were left on my belly & hips from where I injected. This whole week, though, has been much worse. About a day after a sub-q (or sometimes sub-adipose) injection, each shot spot becomes red, swells up, gets a hard surface, & becomes warm to touch. Itchy & uncomfortable.

Sounds like infection? That's what I thought too, but I'm pretty damned careful with cleanliness — more alcohol splashed about than a frat party. In the first red swelling I even injected a bit of alcohol hoping to stop infection. Not recommended. Thought it might be my old bacto-water, so I switched, but now it's happening again. My belly looks like it's been attacked by a number of angry of bees. But, after a couple of days of this, each "bee sting" begins to subside, so that doesn't sound like infection. Does it?

Product itself gives signs this early that it's authentic: water weight gain, nice to wake up from, even a flare up of my herpes type 1 ("cold sores"), which a growth hormone might cause. But that doesn't necessarily mean the product is contaminate-free.

I'm using the right sort of kit — 1/2" 29g BD superfines with .5cc syringes.

Anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? Any advice from someone besides "give it up"? After a nonrefundable investment of over a grand, that is not pleasant option. On the other hand, another 200 days of itchy red swollen bee stings doesn't sound so goddamned pleasant either.

Help for this old sport?

Solo

[jasthace]

Hey Solo why don't you stomp on over to Outlawmuscle.com they have a good forum on HGH,IGF-1,and insulin

[FTT010101]

the redness and swelling is indicitive of a allergic reaction... are you using the (bear with me here its been a while) 192 chain amino version or the 191 (i think thats it... again, its been a while) the longer one has a diff amino at the start... people somtimes had problems with this type. better ask some other bro's though, its been a while since i last did gh...


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[solo47]

Originally Posted by jasthace

Hey Solo why don't you stomp on over to Outlawmuscle.com they have a good forum on HGH,IGF-1,and insulin

Thanks, printer. Went there & already learned from other threads that such welts are a pretty well known symptom of certain brands of HGH. Good to know that I'm not about to dissolve. Unfortunately Chinese blue tops have a reputation for affecting some people this way. Guess what colour of plastic tops are on my bottles of somatropin.

Maybe over there someone can suggest a way of dealings with the symptoms, though I expect time will kill or cure, as always.

Solo

[jasthace]

Wondering if intramuscular injection would make any difference in the pain level??

[pcgizzmo]

Hey Solo! After doing some research, here are a couple of things I found. I hope they help. Keep us updated.

Got this off of LEF Forum

'I have read your question and in my experience you are getting the red spot or "irritated" area from the bacterial static water used to re-constitute the Hgh., what you need is alchol free bacterial static water to be mixed with the Hgh to keep that from happening, you are having an allergic reaction to the alcohol in the water., I hope this helps if you mix it yourself use the bottle of water that is green... not the red one., usually the green one is the same water used to mix Botox, you will not have that reaction if you use this practice. if you have any more questions feel free to email me at bodybuilding@usa.com'

Another thing I have read about but, can't seem to find at the moment is there are two types of HGH. The one that is closest to our bodies or should I say "Exactly" like our bodies is 191 aminos. Some manufacturers produce an HGH that has 192 aminos. Some people have a reaction to the 192 aminos brands. Seems like I read 20 - 40% of the population. It is supposed to render the HGH useless in these individuals. I hope it is just the water you are using and not the other. That would suck.

Paul

[solo47]

Originally Posted by pcgizzmo

Hey Solo! After doing some research, here are a couple of things I found. I hope they help. Keep us updated.

Got this off of LEF Forum

'I have read your question and in my experience you are getting the red spot or "irritated" area from the bacterial static water used to re-constitute the Hgh., what you need is alchol free bacterial static water to be mixed with the Hgh to keep that from happening, you are having an allergic reaction to the alcohol in the water., I hope this helps if you mix it yourself use the bottle of water that is green... not the red one., usually the green one is the same water used to mix Botox, you will not have that reaction if you use this practice. if you have any more questions feel free to email me at bodybuilding@usa.com'

Another thing I have read about but, can't seem to find at the moment is there are two types of HGH. The one that is closest to our bodies or should I say "Exactly" like our bodies is 191 aminos. Some manufacturers produce an HGH that has 192 aminos. Some people have a reaction to the 192 aminos brands. Seems like I read 20 - 40% of the population. It is supposed to render the HGH useless in these individuals. I hope it is just the water you are using and not the other. That would suck.

Paul

Thanks Paul, but all of this is covered. I've got top-'o-the-line product, potent & 191aa. I ordered in my own bacteriostatic water so the mix is pure. Most likely my body is just adjusting to this powerful foreign hormone influencing its balance with something akin to an allergic reaction. The word is that it should pass. So, whutthefuk, I'll just walk around like a killer bee victim for a few weeks.

Couldn't jog today at all. Felt like I weighed a ton & my legs were stiff, joints swollen. I'm approaching the most I've ever weighed & my gym visits & food intake have both lessened! Gee, do you think it could be h20? Lucky for me I hate frogging running. Always a silver lining!

How is your HGH intro going?

Solo

[pcgizzmo]

I am just about ready to purchase. Probably next week. I needed to wait for funds to come in and I am just about ready. I also wanted to wait to see how you did on yours. Not that I wanted you to be my guinea pig Its kinda working out that way. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Are you still doing the 5 iu's???

Paul

[solo47]

Originally Posted by pcgizzmo

I am just about ready to purchase. Probably next week. I needed to wait for funds to come in and I am just about ready. I also wanted to wait to see how you did on yours. Not that I wanted you to be my guinea pig Its kinda working out that way. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Are you still doing the 5 iu's???

Doing 4ius/day, at 3am & 2pm or thereabouts. One day a week off, today in fact. Still scratching my swellings on my belly, sides, left thigh, & under my chin. I finally got that double chin I've been dreading.

Use me as your guinea pig, that's fine. But you should realize that all good clubs have a demanding admission price. I expect things will get more challenging before they begin to turn round.

Never been allergic to anything in my life, but if my reaction is like an allergic reaction, I wonder if there's good over-the-counter or even prescription antihistamine that might help.

It'll be a pity if these itchy red welts don't subside because — after what I frogging paid — I intend to keep injecting for the full 200 days!

Maybe my AAS cycle in June will balance things out.

Solo

[pcgizzmo]

Try Benadryl. It might help. It might make you sleepy to but it better than scratching all the time.

Paul

[unt0ld]

So what did the guys on the other forum tell you Solo?

You think there gonna last the whole 6 months?

if so are you gonna stick with it?

And why are ur legs stiff and joints all messed up?

Feel better buddy.

[hackskii]

Sortof sounds like the bac water to me.

Stiff joints, water retention?
That sounds like you are taking too much HGH to me.
HGH works best if used long term, 6 months or longer.
The benefits dont work overnight but fat loss will take time but it does work on HGH.

[solo47]

Originally Posted by hackskii

Sortof sounds like the bac water to me.
Stiff joints, water retention?
That sounds like you are taking too much HGH to me...

Yeah, the stiff legs is all water. So is my 210 lbs. I know that. Temporary. Masteron will help with that soon.

Too much? Only 4iu each day, but I've never done this before, and these blue tops from Tianjin have a repuation for strength. I should have started with 1iu/day & built up, but might as well plunge on now.

My bacto water comes sealed right from Pinz. Should be good. But just to be sure, I'll get some sterile water from the pharmacy today & try it. Also I'll get some Claritin® (not soporific like Benedryl). If I get a positive effect, I'll eliminate them one at a time to see which one worked.

I'll report back if things improve. Otherwise, I'll just keep shooting, hide out, & scratch the itch.

Solo

[solo47]

Reporting Back:

Don't think either the Claritin® or the sterile drugstore water changed much. Since last post I did one belly sub-q shot which has swollen & become itchy — but less so (so maybe the Claritin did something or I'm just evolving).

BUT I have done two other IM shots, one in each shoulder, since then. Result? Nothing — no redness, no swelling, no heat, no itch!

I am greatly relieved. Be doing IMs until my bod finishes adjusting.

(And, Paul, with that 29g 1/2" needle, there is barely any sensation when I plungle the little fucker in to the hilt, so don't fear IM.)

Solo

[solo47]

Reporting Back:

Don't think either the Claritin® or the sterile drugstore water changed much. Since last post I did one belly sub-q shot which has swollen & become itchy — but less so (so maybe the Claritin did something or I'm just evolving).

BUT I have done two other IM shots, one in each shoulder, since then. Result? Nothing — no redness, no swelling, no heat, no itch!

I am greatly relieved. Be doing IMs until my bod finishes adjusting.

(And, Paul, with that 29g 1/2" needle, there is barely any sensation when I plungle the little fucker in to the hilt, so don't fear IM.)

Solo